EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I believe it would be legal, unless explicitly stated otherwise, to rip a DVD to your hard drive for personal use. It's called space-shifting. Unfortunately, DVDs are loaded with anti-piracy blocks to literally keep you from doing this, as it can be used for illegal purposes I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theologian in Training Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Actually, I did a lot of research on this a while ago when I was really annoyed with this whole thing. The only way to rip a DVD, whether you own it or not, is by decrypting the CSS (content scrambling system). There was a whole big thing about websites linking to a program called DeCSS, which, quite simply, decrypts the CSS. Any program you use to rip a DVD would use this technology, thereby, circumventing the CSS and, in turn, making your average movie lover (who spends good money on these movies) a criminal. If you research it, you will see that merely by using any program like that is considered illegal. The difference between CD and DVD is that CD's don't have the same encryption scheme embedded within them that DVD's do. It annoys me to no end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I don't care if you rip cds or dvds for your personal use, i don't think it is wrong. you bought the thing, so u can use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 What ticks me off is the protections they put on DVD's and software now. Like Sony, or Starforce, things that gain root level access to your computer without telling you and then, in an effort to combat people from mounting images mess with Window's IDE stuff until your optical drive doesn't work any more. Well, at least if your system is hacked and messed up or you optical drives fail to work because Starforce trashed them the big wigs can sleep well at night knowing that you aren't copying their software/music/movies. I hate those laws that prohibt the ripping of DVD's. Because of the protections on them, like Theo said, you can't rip them. Which bugs me because I would much rather have them on my harddrive and save the power that would be used to read the optical drive when I don't need to. It really really bugs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 [quote name='Theologian in Training' post='1046780' date='Aug 20 2006, 03:36 PM'] If you research it, you will see that merely by using any program like that is considered illegal. [/quote] You are correct. I cannot stand copyright laws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I really don't see anything wrong with burning CD's, as long as you don't sell them. Sometimes my friends burn CD's for me...I wouldn't buy the CD anyway so it's not like I'm stealing money from the artist. And anyway copyright laws are all about money they aren't really about what is right/wrong, it's about how the artist doesn't think that the millions they already have are enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacobus Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 [quote name='aalpha1989' post='1047153' date='Aug 21 2006, 09:35 AM'] I really don't see anything wrong with burning CD's, as long as you don't sell them. Sometimes my friends burn CD's for me...I wouldn't buy the CD anyway so it's not like I'm stealing money from the artist. And anyway copyright laws are all about money they aren't really about what is right/wrong, it's about how the artist doesn't think that the millions they already have are enough. [/quote] While I have little room to talk as I have borrowed music from friends and play other peoples music on the network at school, I think I understand their logic. At least in theory. In reality, I think (but then again I am a bit of a commie), that it is all about profit. The "I wouldn't buy it anyway so it isn't like they are losing money" logic makes sense, a bit. Because you aren't really costing the recording company any money (you aren't making them give you CDs to copy to) and it isn't like you would have otherwise bought it so you aren't "denying them profit." However, it is a bit like an idea. When you have an idea or an argument that you create, you "own" that idea. Nobody can use your idea if they obtained the idea from you without giving you credit. When I work with people in chemistry in groups and one of them helps me or I help them they are required, by the prof and the school, to write on the paper exactly what help was given to them and what not. It is because the help comes, partly, in the form of ideas which they are then using to complete their homework. They were not the owners of that intellectual property so when they use it they must cite it. It isn't all about being able to "source check." So that is the idea. The music on the CD is the property of the recording company, they own the ideas form the music. So when you take their copywrited work from them you are stealing their ideas and not repaying them for it. At least I would like to be cited or paid for my work, but then again, I have a bit of an ego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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