photosynthesis Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 what's the difference between all these stances? I read an article about this once but i'm not sure what i am.... i think i might be a molinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I can't say I'm quite either of these. I'm highly influenced by the Franciscan school, but also by Thomas and DeSales, so there is some Thomism and Molinism in my thought.. I haven't really worked out a complete system yet.. I haven't had to. Either way I accept all of the dogmas and definitive teachings that pertain to soteriology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popestpiusx Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Thomist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah_JC Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 (edited) To keep this post organized: 1) Confusedist follow Confusious? What's their* belief on predestination? 2) What's Arminian soteriologically? I thought it was a country. 3) I believe that salvation is possible for all, and the God calls everyone. That everyone will be provided with at least one chance to choose God. I'm not sure exactly where that falls. I've never had predestination explained in a way that I've found it agreeable. Too much of it is over-romanticised. (Soul mates seems like an excuse for not working on a relationship. Chosen few seems like an excuse to not share the gospel...) edit: I wrote there instead of their orginally Edited September 12, 2005 by Sarah_JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tojo Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 [quote name='Sarah_JC' date='Sep 12 2005, 11:44 AM']2) What's Arminian soteriologically? I thought it was a country. [/quote] ArmEnians are from Armenia the country, ArmInians form a particular rule of soteriological theology. Most evangelical Protestants in the US today are arminians (the rest mostly Calvinists). They tend to believe amyone can be saved at anytime, and that anyone could loose his salvation. That's about all I can offer on this subject.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 If someone doesn't explain what the poll options mean, I'm just going to have to not vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 [quote name='Sarah_JC' date='Sep 12 2005, 10:44 AM']2) What's Arminian soteriologically? I thought it was a country. [right][snapback]720487[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Named after Jacobus Arminius, a dutchman. Today I suppose there are different flavours of Arminianism, its common among certain denominations (ie, Methodist), and many evangelicals in general. Pure Arminianism is actually very similar to Molinism, and I consider it to be perhaps the friendliest of protestant soteriological approaches. The main contender within protestantism, contra Arminius, is good old Calvinist soteriology. The common summary of Calvinist soteriology is the acronym TULIP: - Total Depravity - Unconditional Election - Limited Atonement - Irresistible Grace - Perseverance of the Saints Perhaps the crux of the corruption in the Calvinist system is the doctrine of double-predestination without which TULIP doesn't make much sense. For a rather fun and fair explanation of TULIP in comparison with Catholic doctrine go here: [url="http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/tulip.htm"]http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/tulip.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 I voted "other" by the way. I've never been perfectly content with Thomism, although its pretty sweet. And there are aspects of Molinism that I find compelling. I consider myself to hold to a hodge podge soteriology. Perhaps I need an acronym. You could sum up my view as D.A.I.S.Y. New rule: a valid soteriological stance must be expressible as a floral acronym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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