Paladin D Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 A question I would ask to a Feminist... Question: Does it discourage women of equal rights that there isn't a WNFL (Women's National Football League)? I'm curious to what her answer would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 A friend of mine, a very pro-life Christian, was asked if she was feminist. She said "I'm a woman. How much more feminist can someone get?" I don't understand why women feel like they have to be "like men" to be "equal" and to feel "adequate" -- true feminism celebrates womanhood and is PROUD of wearing a pink apron and raising a family (for example...) To me, false feminism is a woman trying to squeeze herself into a male mold. We don't exactly see men lining up to become nuns, now do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquamarine Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Any feminist concerned about not being able to play full tackle football should be directed to try out with these gals: IWFL Good luck to 'em...personally, I'd rather just go for a run... I agree with Ash Wednesday. Except for the pink apron part... I look terrible in pink and I've never worn an apron in my life... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Yeah, I'm with Ash on this one, too... except I agree with Aqua on the apron thing. I hate aprons, I never wear them. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I'm with ya'll on just about everything but the apron thing. I should wear my apron more when I cook 'cause I've got more grease stains on good clothes.... but that's just me. Rum-butter sauce is a pain to get out - and a waste of rum if it spills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I don't understand why women feel like they have to be "like men" to be "equal" and to feel "adequate" -- true feminism celebrates womanhood and is PROUD of wearing a pink apron and raising a family (for example...) To me, false feminism is a woman trying to squeeze herself into a male mold. well, I don't happen to agree with you. I wouldn't be happy trying to do that. I am not a cook, (or much of a cleaner) and I love my job. I'm a high school youth minister and I make more money than my husband (substantially more). I don't want to give up teaching my high schoolers to stay at home. My husband has even said that he will stay at home when we have kids so I can work. And I like it that way. I'm not trying to "squeeze" myself into a male mold, I'm just doing what I have to do in order to make my life work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Ah, but Lil Red, I don't think you are the so-called "femi-Nazi" type who tries to squeeze herself into the male mold. You are just called to something a bit different than the average wife, I think. You don't deny gift of children and other gifts of marriage and family life so that you can go and try and be a man, ya know? You have a wonderful husband who is willing to work around your job so that you can give your kids the best home and life possible. I guess what I'm trying to say with all that blather is that you aren't trying to be a "feminist".... oh poppycock.... I had a phrase I was trying to type out and I lost my train of thought. Anyhow, you know what I mean.... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Ah, but Lil Red, I don't think you are the so-called "femi-Nazi" type who tries to squeeze herself into the male mold. You are just called to something a bit different than the average wife, I think. You don't deny gift of children and other gifts of marriage and family life so that you can go and try and be a man, ya know? You have a wonderful husband who is willing to work around your job so that you can give your kids the best home and life possible. I guess what I'm trying to say with all that blather is that you aren't trying to be a "feminist".... oh poppycock.... I had a phrase I was trying to type out and I lost my train of thought. Anyhow, you know what I mean.... right? yeah, i know what you mean! I'm glad you're back Ice! And Vera's back and so is marielapin!!!! This is nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLAZEr Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Would a feminist want a seperate but equal WNFL or just an opportunity to play with the boys? I'll tell you one thing, I would certainly pay money to see Shane Burton tackle Gloria Steinem . . . or especially one of those beaver dam pro-aborts like Gloria Feldt or Kate Michaelmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquamarine Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Oh....I'm not sure the most militant of feminazis wants to take on the NFL...even they'd have to admit they'd be, uh, out of their league... Although some of those chicas in the IWFL are kinda scary looking...yikes! And we're supposed to love our enemies, not want to see them taken down by 300 lb. pro football players. (Can you tell I hate football? I don't even know the names of the positions the big guys who tackle people play). :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ellenita Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Ah, you misunderstand the point! True feminists would argue NOT for a women's league, but for the right to play mixed American football with men in the regular league!!! That's true equality....... .......and looking at some of the guys who play the game....true insanity!!!! In the UK girls are not allowed to play either football (you call this soccer I believe) or rugby in mixed teams after about the age of 11. The daughter of a friend of mine tried to challenge this ruling - she was by far the most talented football player in her mixed team at that time and wanted to continue to play in mixed games, however she lost the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 (edited) Uh... Red Devil that wasn't directed at you or any woman that wants to work or makes more money than their husband. But you don't seem like the type that measures your self-worth on it, and you don't look down on women that don't choose that path, or claim they are "selling themselves short." For the record, I have been a "career woman" since I graduated college at 21, and probably wont even be marrying until I'm 30 and I'll have my Masters degree by then... that was just the way life happened to turn out. Mostly I'm pointing out the irony of false feminism -- that false feminists don't appreciate their womanhood all that much, and ironically, you don't see men out there trying to adopt things that society regards as "feminine" For a woman to be manly is "cool", but for a man to take on any roles traditionally more "feminine" is not. I'm just pointing that out and wondering why that is -- why this bias towards attributes and roles of the "weaker sex" (and how THAT term came about in the first place?) *zips up flame resistant suit since this thread is entering hot waters* Edited January 7, 2004 by Ash Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFrozen Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I neither like nor understand feminists. I am so proud of being a wife and mother I could burst; to me, that is the most beautiful thing a woman could do! I will work outside the home someday. I see nothing wrong with that, as long as it doesn't compromise my position as wife and mother. I am working on getting my degree now. The cost of living is so out of whack these days that women pretty much have to go out and work. This, I believe, is thanks to the original feminists of the seventies who just weren't satisfied with the role God gave them as wife and mother. Men and women ARE equal--they just have different roles. My husband and I are one flesh. We share the responsibilities and support eachothers' strengths and weaknesses. I am happy to be so blessed as to take care of my child and share my life with my husband. No, there is nothing wrong with a woman having a career, if she feels that calling, just as long as it doesn't interfere with her ultimate role of wife and mother. But since all this "I'm going to be a man" garbage came about, I think many women are forced into careers when they wouldn't have had that calling before. Am I making sense? God bless.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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