musturde Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) From what i hear Bashar al Assad was claimed to have been the anti Christ too... or was that his dad... Either way Hamas is still delicious. (in a cannibalistic sort of way) Edited November 20, 2006 by musturde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingcatholic Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Only problem is: You'll know it's the Mark when you get it. You won't be tricked by a vote scheme, or anything else. Credit cards, UPC codes, ink from voting, a SSI number, they've all been blamed. Get some new material! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 (edited) Before now I have read a claim that Barney the dinosaur is the Antichrist, so this doesn't come across as too wacky. As a side note, Mahmoud Abbas isn't a member of Hamas. He belongs to the opposing Al-Fatah party. (I suppose that means he misses out on his share of the hummus...why do these paramilitary parties get all the things worth having?!) Edited November 20, 2006 by Cathoholic Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollingcatholic Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1124259' date='Nov 20 2006, 10:46 AM'] Before now I have read a claim that Barney the dinosaur is the Antichrist, so this doesn't come across as too wacky. [/quote] Barney is the Antichrist; a priest dresses as Barney at "Mass" where an extraordinary minister is dressed as Satan. It all makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1124259' date='Nov 20 2006, 10:46 AM'] Before now I have read a claim that Barney the dinosaur is the Antichrist, so this doesn't come across as too wacky. As a side note, Mahmoud Abbas isn't a member of Hamas. He belongs to the opposing Al-Fatah party. (I suppose that means he misses out on his share of the hummus...why do these paramilitary parties get all the things worth having?!) [/quote] haha yeah, i was kinda puzzled when i first saw the relation to hummus with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Anyone who opposes Christ embodies the Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 [quote]Anyone who opposes Christ embodies the Beast.[/quote] I'm not sure I like the sound of that, Winchester. Don't we all oppose Christ at various points in our lives - even after committing ourselves to following Him? After all, the disciples opposed Him in the Garden of Gethsemane. And what about people who lead terribly evil lives (such as the gang leader Nicky Cruz) and then turn to Jesus? Do they suddenly go from being a part of the Antichrist to being a part of Christ? I don't understand the theology behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 [quote]I'm not sure I like the sound of that, Winchester. Don't we all oppose Christ at various points in our lives - even after committing ourselves to following Him? After all, the disciples opposed Him in the Garden of Gethsemane. And what about people who lead terribly evil lives (such as the gang leader Nicky Cruz) and then turn to Jesus? Do they suddenly go from being a part of the Antichrist to being a part of Christ? I don't understand the theology behind this.[/quote] Firstly, Revelation has happened, is happening and will happen. When we act against Christ, we are opposing Him. We should not like the sound of it. Free will allows us to waffle lie that. Are we the Beast proper? I would say probably not, but you may apply many parts of the Bible to very specific areas. It's like fractals. A single life will echo much of the Bible (The Hebrews beiong the Chosen of God, falling away, coming back. It's the story of a people and of most individual human lives.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephraim Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 [u]A man asked me recently how I arrived at the conclusion that Mahmoud Abbas was the 2nd Beast of Revelation 13.[/u] I summarized if for him in these few short paragraphs. This conclusion is based on the events that started with the handshake between Arafat and Rabin in 1993. It was a slow evolving process and is the false peace spoken of in the Bible. The questions that have to be answered concerning Revelation 13 are: why, who and how. Why do the people in question need the ability to buy and sell? Is it because they refuse to worship a man or is it because they don't have resources? It is much easier to see why people need when they have nothing, as opposed to those that have and are not allowed to spend. Who is going to provide this money to those in question? Mahmoud Abbas. Through the name of one man funds will be allocated to the people from a program instituted on June 16, 2006. His number is 666. How are those people going to get the money? Through a program called the Temporary international mechanism that bypassed the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program was completed and agreed to on June 16, 2006 on a Friday. It allowed funds to get to the PA only through Abbas. Lastly, when he was elected, all people voting either for or against him recieved a mark in their right hands with indelible ink. This mark was supposed to last for two days and prevent double voting. Three items point to the Beast of Revelation 13: his mark, his number and his name. WOEphraim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philosophette Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) This is worthy of a resounding "oy vey". OY VEY. Edited July 16, 2007 by philosobrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephraim Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) [quote name='RC _' post='1124103' date='Nov 20 2006, 01:52 AM']Only problem is: [b]You'll know it's the Mark when you get it. You won't be tricked by a vote scheme[/b], or anything else. Credit cards, UPC codes, ink from voting, a SSI number, they've all been blamed. Get some new material![/quote] What percentage of the world's population would sell their own souls for a slice of bread? I'm sure there are some, but I am equally sure you would not. Satan's own do not know they are worshipping him. They think they are worshipping God. Most major religions of the Earth are expecting an anti-christ of some sort, but nobody is wanting to worship him or take his mark. How can you imply then the mark will be taken purposely? The Beast's mark was given though, and it went by unnoticed. This is why the Lord will come as a thief. Nobody is watching. The Churches present dogma won't allow any mention of the mark until it meets their criteria, an interpretation by scholars long in the grave. Who has the greater advantage? A person alive at the time the prophecies are coming to pass or some preacher who wrote a book based on their interpretation of the Bible? WOEphraim Edited August 19, 2007 by glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Being the true Anti-Christ is harder than winning on American Idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 My actual 2 cents is that I think the idea of receiving the mark necessarily is attached to a sinful choice. Voting with a dye-stained finger couldn't qualify, I don't think. BTW, what does 'WOEphraim' mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephraim Posted August 19, 2007 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 [quote name='Paddington' post='1362210' date='Aug 18 2007, 07:40 PM']BTW, what does 'WOEphraim' mean?[/quote] The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 [quote name='glenn' post='1362240' date='Aug 18 2007, 11:37 PM']The Watchman of Ephraim Hosea 9:8[/quote] Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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