Nathan Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 [quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1009750' date='Jun 21 2006, 07:26 AM'] Man, oh man! Time to start adding some pews to our buildings.... Hear that thunder outside? It's the sound of a mighty throng of true Christians coming home to the Church. Methinks we shall start to see a mass exodus from the Episcopalian parishes..let us all welcome them with open arms to the promised land. [/quote] Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she_who_is_not Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 My heart is breaking over this convention and is causing so much strife with my friends and family. Please pray! Our Lady of Walsingham, Pray for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Past bombshells from the Episcopalian/Anglicans have caused mass conversions to Catholicism. Hopefully this will do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jswranch Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 (edited) [quote name='thedude' post='1009817' date='Jun 21 2006, 10:15 AM'] Past bombshells from the Episcopalian/Anglicans have caused mass conversions to Catholicism. Hopefully this will do the same. [/quote] I am not sure this would be a good thing. I assess conservative episcopalians to match up with liberal catholics. Going from the C of E to Rome is more than switching denominations between churches that have a simular structure. We already have enough problems with our current flock. They need to join only the CC only if they "believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church teaches, believes and proclaims to be revealed by God." Otherwise, they may only be running from one problem into another. Newman discussed this and may be worthy of a review by all. Edited June 21, 2006 by jswranch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she_who_is_not Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 [quote name='jswranch' post='1009832' date='Jun 21 2006, 10:38 AM'] I am not sure this would be a good thing. I assess conservative episcopalians to match up with liberal catholics. Going from the C of E to Rome is more than switching denominations between churches that have a simular structure. We already have enough problems with our current flock. They need to join only the CC only if they "believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church teaches, believes and proclaims to be revealed by God." Otherwise, they may only be running from one problem into another. Newman discussed this and may be worthy of a review by all. [/quote] When I had my first meeting to join RCIA, they questioned me very specifically about my motives for leaving the Episcopal Church. They pretty much came out and asked if I was homophobic! I had some trouble when Isaid I was opposed to womens ordination! I agree though that mere disagreement is not a reason to leave one's denomination. I think a lot of people don't take their conversion process seriously in this respect. Only now am I starting to realize what true Catholocism is. Anyway, I guess I am still an Episcopalian as I have not been confirmed and recieved in the Catholic Church yet. Heartbreak! My family is sooo sad and all my friends are all gloaty of the whole presiding bishop thing. We got into such an argument over it last night. Our Lady of Walsingham, Pray for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyDolly Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Well< I think it is insanity frankly. And yes It has to do with the Jews saying may his blood be upon them and their children. I donot think evangelical christians will go the same route. They use the bible to much and alot of them want to go around converting Jews. I hope the Catholic Church will not be so foolish. I think Rome has more sense praise be to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus. There have been many changes in the Anglican and Episcopal churches and many do not like what they are seeing. I do hope that those who leave and become RC do so for the correct reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatS Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 [quote]And yes It has to do with the Jews saying may his blood be upon them and their children.[/quote] Now this may be completely wrong, but...well, when I was a kid, I was taught that the crowd was "whipped up" into a frenzy by the high priests who wanted Jesus crucified. They circulated among the crowd, insisting to the people there that it was Barrabas who should be released. So when they were screaming, "May his blood be upon us and on our children!" it didn't mean that the Jews were condemning themselves for the rest of time. It was the crazy rantings of a mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 [quote name='jswranch' post='1009832' date='Jun 21 2006, 12:38 PM'] I am not sure this would be a good thing. I assess conservative episcopalians to match up with liberal catholics. Going from the C of E to Rome is more than switching denominations between churches that have a simular structure. We already have enough problems with our current flock. They need to join only the CC only if they "believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church teaches, believes and proclaims to be revealed by God." Otherwise, they may only be running from one problem into another. Newman discussed this and may be worthy of a review by all. [/quote] I believe you to be correct. Most of the traditional ones already left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamweaver Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Wow, this is all pretty crazy! Next thing you know, they'll be preaching about a "historical Jesus" who was a great moral teacher; and thats it. Most likely a moral teacher accepting of every kind of sin, lest someone get offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelF Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 It's important that any potential converts from the Episcopal Church hold to Catholic dogma, regardless of motivation for jumping ship. Specifically, Transubstantiation and the Real Presence. Most Anglicans, even High Church Anglo-Catholics dispute both dogmas. It's no good gaining folks who will sit in the pews, but do not believe as we do. All that does is allow them to mislead other catholics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatS Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 [quote]Next thing you know, they'll be preaching about a "historical Jesus" who was a great moral teacher; and thats it. Most likely a moral teacher accepting of every kind of sin, lest someone get offended.[/quote] Sadly that is already taking place within liberal Christian circles. It's already been written about in the books of John Dominic Crossan and retired Archbishop John Shelby Spong (who is Episcopal, whattaya know??). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
she_who_is_not Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Last night I had dinner with my best friend who is planning to study theology at an Anglican seminary and we started joking about how the Bible should be condemned as anti-pagan. I guess you had to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatS Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 [quote]Last night I had dinner with my best friend who is planning to study theology at an Anglican seminary and we started joking about how the Bible should be condemned as anti-pagan. [/quote] Nope, it's still funny! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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