To Paste Or Not To Paste

[willguy]

Not to sidetrack matters any, but I have to

The ROCK, was the admission that Peter stated Christ was the Messiah, come to save the world, and the FAITH in Jesus was the foundation stone.

That is the weakest protestant arguement out there. Jesus, if you completely translate what He said, said "You are Rock, and upon this Rock I build my Church." He said YOU are Rock, not what you say is the rock, but You. As in Simon Peter (Kephas).

But one thing I've found is that a Catholic mentality is "I will make myself agree with the truth" and Protestant mentality is more along the lines of "I will make the truth agree with me" (case in point: choosing a denomination because you like what it says instead of because it stands the test of time and bears the witness of Scripture, History, and Tradition).

[Circle_Master]

But one thing I've found is that a Catholic mentality is "I will make myself agree with the truth" and Protestant mentality is more along the lines of "I will make the truth agree with me" (case in point: choosing a denomination because you like what it says instead of because it stands the test of time and bears the witness of Scripture, History, and Tradition).

Do not suggest such a thing. I come at Scripture only to see what it may teach. I study passages and do historical research and do cultural research and study commentators and find the best explanation possible for a passage. If it disagree's with my theology - I will adjust my theology. I do not have a 'Church' that tells me the boundaries of my interpretation or tells me specifically what I must believe and then fit Scripture in that.

Who is really making Scripture fit to their case and who is really attempting to find out what it says. Why do you think dispensationalism even sprung up? It was an attempt to figure out how to hold to literal promises made in the Old Testament letting Scripture speak for itself. Why do you think ANY protestant denomination sprung up? It was for letting Scripture speak for itself and searching for the true meanings - not ones dictated.

[cmotherofpirl]

Now don't go into attack mode again , but does this mean that if you keep finding new meanings for a passages you will keep adjusting your theology? Are you ever worried that you will change to the point that you are in a different Church theologically than where you started out?

And as for making scripture meeting theology and viseversa , how do you reconcile the prot position on John 6, which is the opposite of 1500 years of teaching of the Church.

[Circle_Master]

Now don't go into attack mode again , but does this mean that if you keep finding new meanings for a passages you will keep adjusting your theology? Are you ever worried that you will change to the point that you are in a different Church theologically than where you started out?

It does not bother me. What is the salvation message is the most simplest thing and I have no doubt will never change. That is what is important in finding a church to belong to first. If my theology is thoroughly against theirs in all other ways it does not matter. I will teach it as I see the truth, and I will attempt to show it to the elders and etc. but the people are still Christians and I will worship with them my creator.

And as for making scripture meeting theology and viseversa , how do you reconcile the prot position on John 6, which is the opposite of 1500 years of teaching of the Church.

I take great comfort in knowing many extremely intelligent men have concluded the position I take on John 6. My own studies result in seeing the eucharist as a symbol of the wondrous act of Christ humbling himself to death. If I take it believing it is only a symbol and in actuallity it really is transubstantiation or consubstantiation does it hurt me? No, I will still be partaking - but either way I glorify God and worship Him in the act.

I just scanned over John 6 again to make sure I knew what you were talking about and I can't help but pick out these two verses.

"28 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"

29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." "

It is so simple, and yet so beautiful. Believe in Him. Call on His name. Trust in Him. And all is well.