MC IMaGiNaZUN Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I just thought this would be an interesting discussion. I don't really think this can even turn into a debate. But really what good these can do? SHALOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazor Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Wisdom.... it seems to be lacking the most if you ask me. But I tend to focus on politics which colours my answer considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavenseeker Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 wisdome because people rely on advertisements and dumb luck too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Rook's Pawn Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 This Tuesday, EWTN aired a rerun of Mother Angelica Live about the virtues of prudence, temperance, fortitude and justice and a caller asked her just this reason. She said she believed that, in the Church, justice was most lacking. As she described it, it was the injustice of liberals in the Church trying to take away Catholics' rights to truth. She also said that Catholics most lack fortitude for not standing up to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC IMaGiNaZUN Posted June 8, 2006 Author Share Posted June 8, 2006 (edited) Justice, charity, and fortitude are usually words that have been seiged and abused by liberals and progressives. VOTF thinks that they are full of them. But i put hope. I am torn between that and faith. But i see some of the most devout, and loving people who go to church daily, and are too scared to actually believe, and take the risks of faith, not believing God will come through for them, or be faithful himself. Its probably more complicated than that. SHALOM Edited June 8, 2006 by MC IMaGiNaZUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 faith - right now we are having a crisis of faith in our Church. if people had faith that the Catholic Church was the one, true Church, and everything that follows from that - the state of our Church would be a lot better. and i would daresay that all the other virtues up there follow naturally if you have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I voted "Faith." There seems to be a massive worldwide loss of Faith in God's Truth. People turn to false idols or their own egos and passions. When there is a lack of true Faith, there will be a lack in the other virtues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 The two that I would list would be love and spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
journeyman Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' post='1000894' date='Jun 8 2006, 06:10 PM'] The two that I would list would be love and spelling [/quote] 1 Corinthians 13:13 So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love. Charity = love depending on the translator The fruits of charity are joy, peace, and mercy; charity demands beneficence and fraternal correction; it is benevolence; it fosters reciprocity and remains disinterested and generous; it is friendship and communion . . . CCC 1829 but spelling is very, very close Even if Benedict's first Encyclical was [url="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html"]Deus Caritas Est[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I would have to say charity is what is most lacking in the world today. There is too much intolerance in the world today and not enough love for others. Everybody seems to think that if someone does not share the same values and beliefs as them, that they are not worthy of love. However, people forget that God created all, and commanded us all to do what? That's right, "Love one another as I have loved you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Faith. People put their faith in money, having a good time, contraceptives, being "liked", etc. It is all straw. None of it matters in the end. The world needs faith in the Everlasting God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavenseeker Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 now that i think about it all of them are missing from this world as equaly as the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofca Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Wisdom, or more specifically, education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavenseeker Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 being wise does not have to do with being educated. some of the wisest people have had less than or very little more than a highschool education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dairygirl4u2c Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 major catch 22s are almost occuring.. i could see someone saying that wisdom comes first adn everything else naturally follows. like wisdom is how you gain faith. others are saying faith is how you gain wisdom etc. in order to get wisdom you need faith, but in order to get faith you need wisdom. it seems like the chicken or the egg moret han a catch 22. which comes first? perhaps someone could claim that faith comes even to the unwise so. but then is wise faith whatwe want? maybe even wise faith can only come first though a faith leap. i need other's thoughts. who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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