If there were no Catholic church in your area

[HS_Dad]

[quote name='hot stuff' post='1000090' date='Jun 7 2006, 09:42 PM']
Hey if you're looking for fellowship....
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Hey, we should get together some time!

[rkwright]

[quote name='T-Bone' post='999579' date='Jun 7 2006, 10:41 AM']
Thankyou for clearing that up.
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be careful of that T-Bone, thats Sam's opinion. We had a huge debate in another thread and most here would not call the Orthodox heretics. I'm not sure which thread it was, but it was about 3-5 pages on that topic alone.

[MichaelF]

I'll just point out that the Holy Father is trying to reunite the East and West halves of the Church.

We, as Catholics, are obliged to fall in behind him and support that effort, trusting him to know what is what.

That effort is ill-served by referring to the Orthodox as heretics.

Also, that statement tars our Eastern Catholic brethren, as they hold to the same theology as the Orthodox do, IIRC. Seeing as several of their prelates are Cardinals, I fail to see how -they- could be heretics...

Edited June 9, 2006 by MichaelF

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

East and West Halves of the Church?

there is only ONE CHURCH. that is one of the 4 marks of the true church. any schismatics or heretics have put themselves outside of the One True Church and are no longer part of the Body of Christ. We as Catholics are not obliged to follow the Pope if he is teaching error. Why should i trust "ecumenicism" an idea that has been condemned by the Church?

The Orthodox are Heretics. its a fact. It can be proven. They deny Dogma. get over it.

[MichaelF]

I'll stick with the Barque of Peter, thanks.

The rowboat of Feeney and Lefebvre is a bit leaky for me.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

Im not a feenyite, nor am I a lefebvrist, at least in the way you use it.

Edited June 11, 2006 by Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[MichaelF]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' post='1002741' date='Jun 10 2006, 07:54 PM']
Im not a feenyite, nor am I a lefebvrist, at least in the way you use it.
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You've spoken with Lefebvres words, more than once. You show hostility to the Magisterium of the current Bishop of Rome and his immediate predecessor.

Quacks like a duck, etc.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='MichaelF' post='1002749' date='Jun 10 2006, 09:08 PM']
You've spoken with Lefebvres words, more than once. You show hostility to the Magisterium of the current Bishop of Rome and his immediate predecessor.

Quacks like a duck, etc.
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I've quoted Lefebvre. so what? that does not make me a schismatic. I have never assisted at an SSPX mass.

Edited June 11, 2006 by Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' post='998419' date='Jun 6 2006, 10:19 AM']
They have no "offical" statment about sedevecantism. Many of the priests conclude that they "do not know" whether Benedict XVI is the pope or is not the pope, and from what i understand sedevecantism is not discussed there.

Sam
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I would think otherwise. I have read their declaration for splitting from the SSPX and won't post it here because I don't think I can, but it smacks of sedevacantism. They most certainly are, whether or not some of the priests choose not to talk of it openly. Their declaration says as much.

[HollyDolly]

Heavenseeker,the church you are thinking of is the Church of England,started by King Henry the Eigth in the 1500s.It goes back to his attempts to have his marriage to Catherine of Aragon annuled on the grounds that he married the widow of his deceased brother,Prince Arthur
which is a no-no in Letviticus.He had no legitament male heir to the throne,and wanted to marry Anne Boleyn and have heirs.Henry didn't want a repeat of the War of the Roses upon his death.
There are various books on the subject.

If there was no catholic church in my town,i would go to any near Schertz.

Otherwise,I would to the Maronite Catholic Church on Babcock in San Antonio,or,the Polish National Catholic Church on the southside,or St.Sophia's Greek Orthodox .
The maronites are truly Catholic and have always been in communion with Rome,but use a very ancient rite.Most Lebanese belong to this rite.Both they and the Polish National Catholic Church (who is in talks with Rome) have valid scaraments.In fact in the Sunday missal i believe it says the members of the Eastern Rite Catholic Churchs and Polish National Catholic Church may recieve communion in the Roman Catholic Church.I will check on the Orthodox part,but believe even orthodox may recieve communion. The eastern rite churchs such as Ukrainan Byzentine,Chaldean,Hungarian Byzentine,etc.all have valid sacrements.
My mother was Hungarian and her father's family belonged to the Hungarian rite.
Many of these churches like the Syro-Malabar,Chaldean,etc. are very ancient.
Nothing wrong with a Roman Catholic attendingone of their churches.They honor The Heavenly Father,Jesus,the Blessed Mother and the saints.
The sedvidicests i would be wary of due to concerns about the validity of their sacrements,but not with these churches.
There is also the Old Catholic Church of Utrecth and those who claim to be in union with them.Can't recall what the Church's stand on their sacrements are.
Go to www.newadvent.com to find out more.