Lil Red Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 The Orthodox who came back to Rome after the great schism (1054) are the Catholic Eastern Rite Churches. Those who didn't have Orthodox in their name.* Which in and of itself is misleading because some Eastern Catholics prefer being called Orthodox in Communion with Rome. I think I'm gonna start a thread on the history of the Eastern Rites later tonight. It'll be in the Open Mic. oh thank God! *phew* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Dont you guys have instant messengers? :rolling: :loco: Hyper nor Lil Devil have MSN . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 i don't have IM, but ya I know, we should've taken this to Personal Messenging. (?) I was kidding. :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFrozen Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 To many people "get offended" over petty stuff... they just need to lighten up. For example, a retarded kid working at a fast food place said "Merry Christmass" to a muslim, the muslim complained that she was offended, so the kid got fired... This happened in Pennsecola, I don't know which place. Oh, I'm going to be sick.. Please tell me this is a joke! :weep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozencell Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 To many people "get offended" over petty stuff... they just need to lighten up. For example, a retarded kid working at a fast food place said "Merry Christmass" to a muslim, the muslim complained that she was offended, so the kid got fired... This happened in Pennsecola, I don't know which place. NOTHING GOOD WILL EVER COME OF ME MAKING A REPLY TO THIS. Just know that it angers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 I was kidding. okay, but Pal gave me the hook up for MSN, so there! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFrozen Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 OCA is a unification Church of all eastern Orthodox in the US. It is not in Communion with Rome, you can only recieve their sacraments at times of grave necessity, even though they are valid. What do you mean by "gravely necessary?" For Annointing of the Sick if someone's on their deathbed? Confession of a mortal sin? Also, if I went to an eastern Orthodox Mass, I would still have to go to Catholic Mass, right? If I did receive the Eucharist at their Mass, then I wouldn't receive it at ours? I am very curious! Thank you. God bless! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_Master Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 how the heck did you guys paste 5 pages of text while I was out for dinner. And how am I supposed to keep up with all the threads this way . There's like 15 I need to catch up on! Ahhh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 how the heck did you guys paste 5 pages of text while I was out for dinner. And how am I supposed to keep up with all the threads this way . There's like 15 I need to catch up on! Ahhh!!!! hey, it's like this for me all the time!!! don't worry, it's frustrating for some of us, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 What do you mean by "gravely necessary?" For Annointing of the Sick if someone's on their deathbed? Confession of a mortal sin? Also, if I went to an eastern Orthodox Mass, I would still have to go to Catholic Mass, right? If I did receive the Eucharist at their Mass, then I wouldn't receive it at ours? I am very curious! Thank you. God bless! I think in the document I'm thinking of a person on their death bed needing the last rights (confession, anointing, and the Eucharist) is the exact circumstance that the author invisioned. I personally think confession of a Mortal sin is a grave necessity always. An Eastern Orthodox Mass would not fulfill your obligation, unless you didn't have an Eastern or Western Rite Catholic Mass to go to. I'm not sure what you mean by the Eucharist question. They are allowed to recieve our Sacraments whenever they ask for them. We are only allowed to recieve their Sacraments with express permission from the Orthodox priest in question and IF a) there is no Catholic priest available b) we are in SERIOUS need of a particular Sacrament and the only priest available is Eastern Orthodox. If you recieved their Eucharist you would not need to recieve it in a Catholic Church as well on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 (edited) According to canon law, a Catholic may not receive any sacrament from a priest of an Orthodox Church except when it is "physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister." BUT Orthodox Churches do not allow a Catholic to receive any sacraments in any of their Churches under any circumstances. Therefore, a Catholic should NEVER receive Holy Communion or any other sacrament in an Orthodox Church. --------- EXCERPTS FROM THE CATHOLIC CODE OF CANON LAW Can. 844 §1 Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments only to catholic members of Christ's faithful, who equally may lawfully receive them only from catholic ministers, except as provided in §2, 3 and 4 of this canon and in can. 861 §2. §2 Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage commends it, and provided the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, Christ's faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a catholic minister, may lawfully receive the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. §3 Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick to members of the eastern Churches not in full communion with the catholic Church, if they spontaneously ask for them and are properly disposed. The same applies to members of other Churches which the Apostolic See judges to be in the same position as the aforesaid eastern Churches so far as the sacraments are concerned. §4 If there is a danger of death or if, in the judgment of the diocesan Bishop or of the Episcopal Conference, there is some other grave and pressing need, catholic ministers may lawfully administer these same sacraments to other Christians not in full communion with the catholic Church, who cannot approach a minister of their own community and who spontaneously ask for them, provided that they demonstrate the catholic faith in respect of these sacraments and are properly disposed. -------------- However, a Catholic of any Rite in union with Rome is invited and encouraged to receive Holy Communion with the members of any other Rite in union with Rome, if they are properly disposed (if they are in a state of grace and have observed the prescribed fast.) 22 Autonomous Catholic Churches There are 6 rites and 22 autonomous Churches or Churches sui juris within the Catholic Church. Each autonomous Church comes under any of the 6 rites. Except the Roman (Latin) Rite, which is the Western Church, the other 21 Churches belong to Eastern rites. The names of these Churches are given below: Eastern Churches I. Alexandrean Rite 1.Coptic 2.Ethopian II. Antiochean Rite 3.Syrian 4.Maronite 5.Syro-Malankara III. Armenian Rite 6.Armenian IV. Chaldean Rite 7.Chaldean 8.Syro-Malabar V. Byzantine Rite 9.Byelorussian 10. Bulgarian 11. Greek 12. Hungarian 13. Italio-Albanian 14. Melkite 15. Romanian 16. Ruthenian 17. Slovak 18. Ukranian 19. Krizevei 20. Albanian 21. Russian Western Church VI. Latin (Roman) Rite JMJ Likos Edited December 31, 2003 by Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmonk Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 how the heck did you guys paste 5 pages of text while I was out for dinner. And how am I supposed to keep up with all the threads this way . There's like 15 I need to catch up on! Ahhh!!!! Grasshopper, You must learn to let go. :chinese: Your Servant, ironmonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 OK, it was getting difficult keeping up with all the different churches and rites - thanks for posting a clear list Likos! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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