vocation

[avemaria40]

I've been hanging around this part of the phorum for awhile and I was kind of curious about something. how do you know if God is calling you to religious life? I've been wondering lately if it is something I might be called to but I'm not sure.

[OLAM Dad]

am40,

Great question!

I'll let others who have been called to the religious life do the answering.

God Bless

[cappie]

Wrote this some time ago :

1. Use your mind
I advise people that in the ordinary course of events they can use their minds to reach conviction in their hearts. We'll often read the beginning of Paul's Letter to the Romans, chapter 12: "I urge you, therefore . . . by the mercies of God, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God, your spiritual worship. Do not conform yourselves to this age but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and pleasing and perfect" (Rom. 12:1-2).

We talk about renewing the mind--centering the intellect and the will totally on God and what God wants for us. I like to quote scripture to reinforce this point, including the greatest commandment: "Love the Lord your God with your whole heart, your whole mind and with all your strength; and love your neighbor as yourself" (Mark 12:30-31).



2. Look at the options
I ask people what they think God wants them to do. If they present alternate possibilities, I ask which one they are inclined to think is God's will. From students and younger people, the possibilities I hear most frequently are: Should I marry? Should I be a religious or a priest? Should I break up with the person I'm dating? Should I change my course of study in school? Should I spend my summer in volunteer missionary work, or should I take a job at home? Should I room with these particular people? Should I direct my future career into work for the church?

From recent graduates and older people I hear: Is God calling me to move and change my job? Should I go back to school? I thought I was called to marriage, but it's been a long time and I haven't found anyone to marry. Should we adopt children? Should I join a lay community or apostolate? How do I deal with my strong attraction to the married person at work who seems to be flirting with me?

3. What does God want?
Most Catholics follow God's commandments and the teachings of the church. Indeed, the question is usually, "What does God want?" Seldom will a proposed course of action be inconsistent with what God wants. However, a careful review of the priorities involved in the person's state of life will frequently cast a helpful, new light on the proposed decision or change. Such statements as "I am first called to be a wife and mother" or "My first priority as a priest is to serve the people God has given me" will clarify the matter if a new direction threatens to undermine these commitments or make fulfilling them more difficult.

We might also review secondary commitments such as "God has called me to be a teacher" or "My main service to the church is in the area of respect for life." Deeply held commitments of this kind lay a foundation for future actions.

4. Will it help conversion of heart?
The key to discerning a specific vocational call is conversion. Our response to vocation involves converting our life more deeply and fully to the Lord. The call to religious life means a special call of service and self-surrender. The call to marriage always means conversion to a life centered on a spouse and possibly children. Being "in love" is important but not sufficient. Marriage, as well as the religious vocation, involves a commitment to the loving service of others.

In talking about conversion, we'll examine the person's spiritual history of turning away from sin and growing in love of God. We consider how the proposed action fits into this history. Will it bring the person closer to God and a life of virtue, or will it lead him or her further away? We look at how it will change supportive relationships. Will it be easier or more difficult to practice the disciplines of a spiritual life, such as regular prayer, participating in Mass and other sacraments, sharing faith with others, and having spiritual directors and models of holiness?

Sometimes the process of discernment will end here, when it appears that a proposed decision will make it harder for the person to grow in holiness. After going through this review, people sometimes will say, "I can see now that the Lord doesn't want me to do this; this isn't right for me." (More often, however, this conclusion comes after the next step--consistency.) At the same time, a new direction that involves considerable additional responsibility should not be ruled out simply because it might raise new temptations and challenges. Perhaps meeting and overcoming new challenges is precisely what's needed for the next stage of your spiritual growth.

5. Is it consistent with the way God has dealt with me before?
The discussion moves to consistency: How has God led you to this point? The difference between the conversion and consistency is often blurred. In both we're discerning a pattern of spiritual growth. Does the plan under consideration fit in? Can you see your life leading to this point? Do you have the time, energy, and resources to fulfill more demanding commitments?

Sometimes we understand our vocational call only when we meet the people we would like to spend our lives with. In any case, the call will be consistent with what has gone on before in our lives. Sometimes we know we are called to marriage or the religious life long before we find someone we would like to marry or a religious order we would like to enter.

The consistency of the vocation will be tested over a period of time. A couple will go through years of acquaintance and courtship to discern their vocation. People discerning religious vocations will spend years in seminary and formation before making vows for life. We say that married people are "made for each other." We say that priests and nuns and brothers "have a vocation."

The same is true for vocations to the single life. Many people are called to actively embrace singleness in order to care for family members, join a lay apostolate, or lead some other life of service. There must be consistency between the service, the person, and the call to singleness, just as there must be conformity to the gospel and an awareness of how the call will lead to greater conversion and union with God.

As you discern a life vocation, it's important to live consistently. You should start living now what you believe is your vocation. Eliminate the contradictions. As a decision about marriage approaches, both partners will stop dating other people and devote their attention exclusively to each other. Men and women might date in the early stages of thinking about a religious vocation. But as they move toward a decision, however, it's important to begin to live the celibate call, without romantic relationships.

6. What confirms the wisdom of the proposed action?
Usually people tell me several ways that their course of action appears to be confirmed. Friends will endorse it. Circumstances will change in surprising ways to make the act possible. They may have detected special spiritual signs that seem to affirm it. A life vocation is a two-way street. In large decisions--marriage, religious vocation--the confirmation of another party is required. Two parties, not one, make marriage vows. The religious community, as well as the individual, assents to a call to a religious vocation.

The lack of a confirming invitation can cause great anguish. Lovers say their hearts are broken when their love is not reciprocated. The same thing happens to people who think they have a call to the religious life. The call to a religious vocation is mutual. Both the individual and the church must hear it.

Because the mutuality of a religious vocation is often less well understood than the mutuality of marriage, I'd like to say a bit more about it. Dealing with the church can be difficult. But the church is the institution established to carry out the Lord's work--including the work of discerning vocations to the religious life. God became human. He entered into human life. He works through limited, flawed, and sometimes erring human beings and human institutions.

You may encounter problems in this discussion of the confirmation of your vocation. What does it mean when the signs are negative while the disposition of your heart is positive? Parents and family are opposed, circumstances seem to block action, but you still think the proposed course is the right one. Is this a question of timing, should the whole matter be reexamined, or should the signs be disregarded?

What is the relative importance of confirming signs--or the lack of them? How important is the approval of others? What does it mean when it looks very easy, or very difficult, to implement the decision? Be careful not to let the discussion of these complexities overwhelm the discernment process. Difficulties tend to become more complex the longer they are discussed. Move quickly to conviction of the heart. This is decisive.

It is often helpful to write down the most important items of confirmation--or lack of it. In fact, it is usually a good idea to summarize the conclusions you reach at each stage of the discernment process for later prayerful consideration.

7. Interpret spiritual signs
Signs have their place. Signs appear frequently in scripture. "And this will be a sign for you: You will find an infant wrapped in swaddling clothes and lying in a manger," the angel told the shepherds (Luke 2:12). Gideon repeatedly prayed for signs that God wanted him to lead his small force against a greater army. Jesus' miracles were signs of the coming of the kingdom of God. At the same time, Saint Paul explicitly warns against relying on signs rather than on the faith we have received (1 Cor. 1:22).

In my experience, a person's account of spiritual signs is more useful as confirmation of the desire in the person's heart than as a confirming sign in itself. Often, the individual is fully convinced that he or she should go ahead; the spiritual signs are incidental or ambiguous points of confirmation.

8. What does your heart say?
Conviction is decisive. What do you sense about the moral certainty of the rightness of your call? I'll talk with people about their deepest values and desires. "Ask yourself this: Putting aside all other considerations, including difficulties in implementation and other complexities, do you believe that this is the right thing to do? When you prayerfully think about going ahead with this, do you experience a deep 'yes,' a release and a pouring out, or do you experience hesitation and deep uncertainty?"

The standard of moral certainty is high in commitments such as marriage and religious vocation where the commitment is for life and time is not a great factor. The standard of the conviction of rightness is lower in matters where you have to choose the best of several alternatives in a certain period of time. In these cases, moral certainty is a practical conclusion that this is the right course of action, as far as I can see at this point, as a Christian who follows the Lord.

9. Pray
The key to obtaining conviction is prayer. The Lord himself--through the Holy Spirit's action and presence--is the source of true conviction. We all need to pray daily for God to lead us in obedience and faithfulness.

Discerners need patience. Ultimately, neither you nor the rules are in charge. Courtships can be lengthy. Religious vocations can take a long time to unfold. There can be false starts. The process of making a life commitment is easily described, but it's messy and imperfect in reality. We are dealing with sinners, not angels. The man and woman at the altar are two imperfect people exchanging vows of love and faithfulness. Every religious community and parish is populated by people marred by sin. We shouldn't look for the perfect spouse or the perfect community. Even if we found the perfect partner, the marriage wouldn't be perfect after we joined it.

Those in discernment will change. Those who are too rigorous, legalistic, rigid, and set on things being a certain way will learn to adapt and be flexible. Those who like things to be loose and informal, never settled, will learn the benefits of discipline and structure. Those who escape into the spiritual to avoid the natural and the physical will learn how to embrace the messiness of real life. Those who are too cautious and careful will learn how to leap ahead with God's call. Risk-takers will learn the skills of caution and reflective deliberation.

Our life vocation is a treasure buried in a field, the pearl of great price. The grace is in the calling. Pursue it at whatever the cost.

[jezic]

basically, you will know cause it will bug you. THat is the easiest way to describe it. You will think about it over and over again and it will keep coming up, especially during times of prayer or at liturgies/etc.

God is good, but sometimes he can push you a little bit.

(and what cappie said)

[uruviel]

ok WOW Cappie that was more than I could read. lol. Great information. Please know that I may not know what I'm talking about. I'm not knowlegable, I just have suggestions....

I don't know your circumstances and it's difficult to say anything really. For me, I'm not sure how I became to realize that this way of life may be for me, but for you, and any discerner, prayer and trust are the most important keys. Secondly do other things like the Mass, Adoration, Recieving Him frequently, confession frequently, aka, forming a very strong relationship with God. Become His and devote yourself to Him. Trust in Him like a little child, for you can do so little for Him. But what you can He accepts with great gratidute, speak to Him often, and when you are very close to Him, then you do the research very deeply, a spiritual directer would be wonderful! Take steps to visiting orders. I would recomd not dating during discnernment because of the confusion and many other matters I will not go into right now. If you feel that no orders are right for you, then you may discern with other options, marriage etc. Because in entering a religous order you can always go back. Entering marriage you can't. But mainly just remmber, Pray about it allot, read, research, and trust in His divine Mercy and He will let you know.
God Bless you,
Lori +

[jmj]

Mmm, food for thought!

[shortnun]

[quote name='jmj' post='967666' date='May 1 2006, 07:48 PM']
Mmm, food for thought!
[/quote]
My thoughts exactly!

[franciscanheart]

you just know. :

[JesusITrustInYou]

cappie, that was excellent! I read the whole thing, thank you so much for sharing that!

and avemaria, I second everything everyone else has said, haha. Especially what Lori said about forming a close relationship with God by going to Mass and receiving the Eucharist frequently, going to Confession frequently, finding a spiritual director (I'm still looking)...also reading the Bible...and praying the Rosary, because Our Lady is such a wonderful role model and such a powerful intercessor! But my answer to your actual question, "how do you know if God is calling you to the religious life," would basically be this: It really is a "call"... You'd have to be far away or deaf to not hear someone calling you, right? So as long as you're really trying to hear God...you'll know. You'll hear the call if you listen...it kinda tugs on your heartstrings and any other strings you might have, haha.

Know that I'm praying for you! God bless!

Edited May 2, 2006 by JesusITrustInYou

[uruviel]

[quote name='JesusITrustInYou' post='968049' date='May 2 2006, 03:59 AM']
cappie, that was excellent! I read the whole thing, thank you so much for sharing that!

and avemaria, I second everything everyone else has said, haha. Especially what Lori said about forming a close relationship with God by going to Mass and receiving the Eucharist frequently, going to Confession frequently, finding a spiritual director (I'm still looking)...also reading the Bible...and praying the Rosary, because Our Lady is such a wonderful role model and such a powerful intercessor! But my answer to your actual question, "how do you know if God is calling you to the religious life," would basically be this: It really is a "call"... You'd have to be far away or deaf to not hear someone calling you, right? So as long as you're really trying to hear God...you'll know. You'll hear the call if you listen...it kinda tugs on your heartstrings and any other strings you might have, haha.

Know that I'm praying for you! God bless!
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Thanks Angela! I totally agree with you, Our Lady is a wonderful intercesor, and she has the greatest relationship with God, I'm sure if you asked her specifically to ask Jesus to help you she would! It is just a "call" and you'd have to be really against God's will to ignore it, vocations don't go away easily. But don't listen too hard because you may mistake regular things for signs, just relax, and God may send you a sign that you have to be patient and he doesn't want this for you yet, He may want to test you to see how much you really love Him, God could do anything, just keep your eyes open to His will, and your heart, and concentrate on Him and prayer and loving Him. The more you can connect with Him through your hearts the more communication will go on. Don't try to get close to Him just so you know what to do out of pride, just love him!! Just form a relationship with Him out of love, do your share in the research and discerning, and leave it to Him!! Do I make any sense whatsoever?

[Tindomiel]

I can't seem to decide if I really have a vocation to religious life, or if I just [i]want[/i] a vocation so that I can spend more time with God without being constantly interrupted. It almost seems right now that becoming a nun would be a way for me to "escape" the world, and know I shouldn't look at it that way...

[uruviel]

yeah that's right tind. but it's hard to not see esp. living in a cloister as a way to escape from the world. Just try to see what God wants, it's hard and confusing but pray and trust.

[Laurentina1975]

I would have to agree with Cappie and Jezic. It just won't go away, your relationship with Jesus will become so deep you couldn't imagine NOT living the religious life.

One thing is, the call to religious life is centered upon our relationship with Jesus and then we are called to serve.

Also, a mere facsination with religious life can be obessive and not really a true vocation. If this be the case, usually one displays a lot of immaturity, lack of focus, etc.

Hope I helped.

God bless ya for wondering!

L.