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Is the G.I.R.M. anathematized by Trent?


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He's patriarch to the Latin Church. :)

Catholic Church is good for it. The Latin Church is the Church found in the Roman Rite.

[quote name='New Advent']We must now add to Western Europe all the new lands occupied by Western Europeans, to make up the present enormous Latin patriarchate.[/quote]

[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09022a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09022a.htm[/url]

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[quote name='qfnol31' post='973878' date='May 6 2006, 03:23 PM']
He's patriarch to the Latin Church. :)

Catholic Church is good for it. The Latin Church is the Church found in the Roman Rite.
[url="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09022a.htm"]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09022a.htm[/url]
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I haven't read through this thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating something that's already been said.

The canon from Trent does not say that the Canon must be said aloud. It simply says that the practice of speaking lowly can't be CONDEMNED. The GIRM doesn't condemn the practice. If it did, the Church wouldn't allow the Tridentine Liturgy to be offered anymore, as she does. Rather, the GIRM makes a positive statement regarding a particular point of the Liturgy. It doesn't say "This can't be done and ought to be condemned," but "This is more fitting, and ought to be recommended."

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[quote name='brendan1104' post='957483' date='Apr 22 2006, 07:33 PM']
Yes, the first Consecration was the first Mass and the first early liturgies- in Jerusalem, etc. were in Aramaic... no doubt about it. But then the Church became univeral, and adopted the universal tongue...
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This is, quite simply, wrong. The Church never adopted a "universal tongue," nor has there ever been a time in history in which every Divine Liturgy was done in Latin. Within the Latin Rite, yes, but the Latin Rite is not the whole Catholic Church, and we would do well to remember it. The Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom was never discarded by the Church, and the Syro-Malabar Church has never broken communion with Rome, while at the same time never adopting latin as the liturgical language.

Moreover, it should be pointed out that this quote betrays a false theology as well. There was never a time when the Church "became universal." The Church has [i]always[/i] been universal because [i]Christ[/i] is universal, and the Church is the Mystical Body of Christ. This is why the teaching of the Church has always been that any particular Church is not a "part" of the greater Church, but rather, a perfect instantiation of the full Church in a particular place.

Your Brother In Christ,

Jeff

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