prose Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 What is grace? AND What are graces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peccator Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) [quote name='prose' post='953974' date='Apr 19 2006, 07:13 PM'] What is grace? AND What are graces? [/quote] Well, I'm relying on my limited understanding of the english language...but 'grace' is when you're given something, even when you don't deserve it. (In contrast to 'mercy', in which you're not given what you deserve..) Graces? Well, The fact that one can wake up every morning still alive is a grace Edited April 19, 2006 by Peccator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I have an inate idea of them. But I am wondering how others define them. It got me thinking in the debate thread when someone said children don't need graces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 two words: Baltimore Catechism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Uncread Grace is God indwelling within the human soul. Created Grace is action of God which both prepares the soul for reception of God within itself and allows that soul to participate in the gifts of God indwelling within the soul. At least thats what I think it is...? L_D, Pio, Cappie, anyone...? Edited April 19, 2006 by Myles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apotheoun Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Grace (i.e., divine energy) is God as He gives Himself to man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Okay, why would children not need graces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 [quote name='prose' post='954016' date='Apr 19 2006, 06:40 PM'] Okay, why would children not need graces? [/quote] Everyone needs grace. To say that anyone doesn't need grace is heretical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 [quote name='jasJis' post='952491' date='Apr 18 2006, 12:58 PM'] Well I guess you don't know much about the graces that come from Mass. Little kids are innocent and aren't in as much need of the graces as sinful adults. It's kinda selfish of people insisting their kids have to go and others need to tolerate 'a little noise'. What's a little noise? Kids aren't adults and are oblivious to the Mass. Grace is not 'magic' that just happens. Adults need to participate with Grace. The distinctions are how disruptive is(are) your kid(s), how much grace in need of grace are they compared to older kids/teens/adults, and who NEEDS the grace of mass more. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 grace is the complete opposite of sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoketos Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 [quote name='Tony' post='954130' date='Apr 19 2006, 01:14 PM'] grace is the complete opposite of sin. [/quote] I would say that grace is opposed to sin but not the dialectic opposite. [quote name='brendan1104' post='954004' date='Apr 19 2006, 11:31 AM'] two words: Baltimore Catechism. [/quote] Also I think that what you are really asking about is the distinction between [i]Habitual Grace[/i] and [i]Actual Grace[/i] both are forms of [i] Sanctifying grace[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Joe Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Aren't graces those characters from classical mythology? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 You mean the muses? I tend to think of grace as God's free gift of His life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Joe Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 grace is the economy of salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) [url="http://catholica.pontifications.net/?p=1617"]Grace Journet[/url] from Pontifications. You can always count on Al Kimel Edited April 20, 2006 by Myles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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