You know what really GRINDS my gears?

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[quote name='qfnol31' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:27 PM']Che strange that forum.

Anyways, as of yet you have still to prove the Church taught it to me.  
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well. its not Dogma.

but the bible teaches it. and many saints before the council, and popes, and local counsels interpreted it that way.

then Vatican II says: NO. Jews are not cursed.


so really the burden of proof is on you and your, pastoral council.

[qfnol31]

Not really...I can take that as a teaching for now.

Whether infallible or not is possibly up for question, but as far as things are concerned I'm not so much.

[quote][quote][quote]I hate it when Catholics are politcally correct, and call others "anti-semetic" becuase they believe what the church has always taught.[/quote]You have a lot to learn. Stop with this line of reasoning....
*I will run circles around you, slapping you on the back of the head as you swing at me missing......*

Your level of Catholic education is sorely lacking.[/quote]

Neo-Catholicism. Find me a council or a saint BEFORE vatican II that said the Jews were not cursed.[/quote]

Don't have to 'cause that wasn't my argument...I just wanted to show that the Church hasn't itself ever taught that Jews are responsible, though Saints have.

[jgirl]

It seems like this thread is in the wrong place, and it's going nowhere fast.

[qfnol31]

LoL, I enjoy talking with Sam...unless he disagrees, I actually don't find this really a debate.

[ardillacid]

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[quote name='qfnol31' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:38 PM']
Not really...I can take that as a teaching for now.

Whether infallible or not is possibly up for question, but as far as things are concerned I'm not so much.

You have a lot to learn. Stop with this line of reasoning....
*I will run circles around you, slapping you on the back of the head as you swing at me missing......*

Your level of Catholic education is sorely lacking.[/quote]

Neo-Catholicism. Find me a council or a saint BEFORE vatican II that said the Jews were not cursed.[/quote]

Don't have to 'cause that wasn't my argument...I just wanted to show that the Church hasn't itself ever taught that Jews are responsible, though Saints have.
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not as dogma, no.



but i would say it is Ordinary Infallible Magisterium:
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("Constant Magisterium" or "Universal Magisterium"): this is exercised when the Pope, Council, Bishop, priest or any authorized teacher teaches in accordance with Tradition, the Sacred Deposit of Faith, and what has been always accepted and taught by the Church in the past
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i also enjoy talking with Kepha. he is reasonable, and does not insult me.

[homeschoolmom]

Who's insulting you?

[Luthien]

Way to hijack my cousins thread Sam.

[qfnol31]

The problem with the OEM here is that i think I could (if I looked hard) find some quotes by Saints and/or Popes contrary...unfortunately I'm lazy tonight and busy the next week.

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Luthien' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:51 PM']Way to hijack my cousins thread Sam.
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LoL, this time it was me.

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[quote name='Luthien' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:51 PM']Way to hijack my cousins thread Sam.
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ohh please!




that is the silliest thing to use that emoticon over.

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[quote name='qfnol31' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:52 PM']The problem with the OEM here is that i think I could (if I looked hard) find some quotes by Saints and/or Popes contrary...unfortunately I'm lazy tonight and busy the next week. 
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if/when you find some, i would enjoy seeing them.

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[quote name='homeschoolmom' date='Apr 16 2006, 08:49 PM']Who's insulting you?
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i think you said (and i may be intepreting this wrong, so please correct me)

that i lied, to get attention. but im not sure what you meant by it.

[ardillacid]

You made a goodbye thread yesterday, and people came to express their regrets that you were leaving and you got your sympathy....then today you are back posting again. What do you expect people to think?

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[quote name='notardillacid' date='Apr 16 2006, 09:05 PM']You made a goodbye thread yesterday, and people came to express their regrets that you were leaving and you got your sympathy....then today you are back posting again. What do you expect people to think?
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it really is my fault. i guess i should not have done that, i made myself look really bad. i might leave. im going to consult a priest first and see what he says.