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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

i really want to go tonight. but i don't know if i can.

i do not know if i should make a general confession or not

ive come to the conclusion that Rock n' roll is sinful. (Benedict XVI agrees). I i would have to delete my rock n' roll

it is VERY HARD to remain in a state of grace at school!


i also do not know how much detail to go into in a confession.

lets say i slandered a bishop. would i say which bishop? would i say what i said? would i say why?


im also confused about what a reconcilliation service is?


Sam

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a reconcilliatin service is just the thing that parishes have before Easter where a whole bunch of priests are there to hear confessions from a whole bunch of people. They usually, have everyone pray the Act of Contrition together to save time and then everyone goes to individual confession.

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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[quote name='Balthazor' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:39 PM']Rock n roll is sinful  :blink:  That is news to me.
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im still debating this one. i really do not know what to do about it.

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Fidei Defensor

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Apr 11 2006, 02:40 PM']im still debating this one. i really do not know what to do about it.
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It depends on the words, and the intent of your listening to it.

I would think that listening to it would be a venial sin if it is sinful at all.

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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:43 PM']It depends on the words, and the intent of your listening to it.

I would think that listening to it would be a venial sin if it is sinful at all.
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hmmm

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If rock and roll is sinful...then half of my "our Fathers" must be sinful...


because I rock out when I pray....
I even put prayer lyrics to Jimmi Hendrix tunes.

In fact sometimes I put on some black crows on my way to work and pray a few decades of the rosary.

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Theologian in Training

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Apr 11 2006, 02:35 PM']i really want to go tonight. but i don't know if i can.

i do not know if i should make a general confession or not

ive come to the conclusion that Rock n' roll is sinful. (Benedict XVI agrees). I i would have to delete my rock n' roll

it is VERY HARD to remain in a state of grace at school!
i also do not know how much detail to go into in a confession.

lets say i slandered a bishop. would i say which bishop? would i say what i said? would i say why?
im also confused about what a reconcilliation service is?
Sam
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Did you ever think you may be being a little scrupulous?

I am not accusing you of it, nor am I implying that listening to Rock n Roll is a good or bad thing, but you might want to step back and see what it is that is causing the guilt that is leading you to associate externals like rock music and the like to trouble your conscience.

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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[quote name='Theologian in Training' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:48 PM']Did you ever think you may be being a little scrupulous?

I am not accusing you of it, nor am I implying that listening to Rock n Roll is a good or bad thing, but you might want to step back and see what it is that is causing the guilt that is leading you to associate externals like rock music and the like to trouble your conscience.
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i actually am very scrupulous.


could someone please answer my question about detail?

im very confused.

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Tell as much as you think is applicable. I just tell Enough so they know what I did.
That is what I do, I mean if I go into too much detail my confessions sounds a little like soap operas. :P

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Theologian in Training

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Apr 11 2006, 02:51 PM']i actually am very scrupulous.
could someone please answer my question about detail?

im very confused.
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Do your best to recall all your sins, confess them as best you can, by making a proper examination of conscience beforehand. If you feel that you should name the bishop specifically or the priest asks you to (which I doubt he would) then do so, otherwise, give as much detail as needed for the confessor to understand what you are talking about, the sin you have committed, and why you are there in the first place. At least that is what I would do, and would hope people would do for me in a little over a month ;)

God Bless

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I believe that you are to go into enough detail so that the priest understands what you're confessing and how many times you've committed that sin.

So in the example about the bishop, I don't think it's necessary to mention which bishop (unless the priest asks). However, I don't think it'd be enough just to say "Oh, I said some bad things."

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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[quote name='Theologian in Training' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:55 PM']Do your best to recall all your sins, confess them as best you can, by making a proper examination of conscience beforehand. If you feel that you should name the bishop specifically or the priest asks you to (which I doubt he would) then do so, otherwise, give as much detail as needed for the confessor to understand what you are talking about, the sin you have committed, and why you are there in the first place. At least that is what I would do, and would hope people would do for me in a little over a month ;)

God Bless
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thanks Rev. Deacon.

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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

[quote name='magnificat' date='Apr 11 2006, 01:56 PM']I believe that you are to go into enough detail so that the priest understands what you're confessing and how many times you've committed that sin.

So in the example about the bishop, I don't think it's necessary to mention which bishop (unless the priest asks).  However, I don't think it'd be enough just to say "Oh, I said some bad things."
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so should i say what i said?

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Piccoli Fiori JMJ

Probably not, but just the nature of what was said... you could just plainly say, I slandered a bishop, like you said before... If they ask for more, you can provide them with more.

It also looks like your example is a mortal sin: [url="http://www.catholic.org/frz/examen/examen_mortal.htm"]http://www.catholic.org/frz/examen/examen_mortal.htm[/url]
read the list under #2

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