The Reformation

[Paladin D]

The Bible teaches obeying GOD, NOT tradition, in fact, there are MANY quotations from Jeus himself about the traditions of men, and how they have kept man from God.

Yes, I agree. We can't uphold anything above God, which would include The Bible. And also, Jesus said beware of the traditions of men. But when Paul refers to pass down the traditions, that is what the Catholic Church has today. And?

Jesus taught that honoring TRADITION, and ignoring God is wrong.

By that logic, the Bible would be included as well.

So, don't give me that stuff about Tradition being the way of God, Tradition when IN CONTRAST to the plain clear teachings of Jesus is Phariseeism, and wrong.

Yes, when in contrast. But the Sacred Tradition passed down from the 12 Apostles, till present day... does not contrast Jesus' teachings.

[Circle_Master]

By that logic, the Bible would be included as well.

No, only the traditions of men. Your traditions themselves take up much more space in writing than the whole of Scripture. It is more complicated to understand the understanding to understand Scripture half the time for the Catholic Church! How's that for a mouthfull.

[RJS]

Bruce,

You never answered my question from above. Will you allow me to buy you By What Authority: An evangelical Discovers Catholic Tradition by Mark Shea? He had the same problems that you are having now. It is only about 170 pages but it will clear up most of your confusion.

Just let me know.