DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Okay, do you believe God knows all?? if so, He knows when you will be born and when you will die...so, why if God is such a loving God do people die on holidays? or in car accidents...or massive heartattacks unexpectantly...If he is all powerful and controls all things that happen or allows all things to happen, then why would He let such things happen????....i bring this because many people have asked this...so, i'm asking your thoughts on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 You are probably answering yourself "why would someone ask such a question at this time of year?" well, i ask this because some of us are celebrating the birth of Christ that is coming soon, while others are mourning and desperately trying to forget such a time because of the death of a loved one.... i understand such a thing...because as i am celebrating and anticipating the glorious day of Christ's birth, i am having difficulty because of my grandfather's death on Christmas last year...how can one feel both celebration and mourning...i guess that's like when a loved one dies...you celebrate because you know they are in heaven yet you mourn for the loss of your loved one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 It seems unthinkable to us, I know. Why would God let something bad happen on a day that should be good? Why would He let someone die in such a horrible way when they could have just died in a faster and easier and less painful way? These are not questions that many people can give a definate answer to. They are certainly not questions that I can give a definate answer to. But know that God has a plan. Everything that happens in life has a reason. We can guess and guess and guess at the motives behind life's occurences and probably never even guess one right reason. It's not for us to know. Just sit back and let God guide you. Also, remember that death should not be a bad thing. Maybe the last few moments before death will be horrible, but the result of death for God's faithful children is always life. Yes, it's hard to think that we will never see someone again for the rest of our time on earth, but we will one day again see those who have passed on. And it will be nothing but heavenly, pun intended. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 I believe he does know when your gonna die, Like say he has a calender and my name is marked on it"Foundsheep will make the bad decision of drinking and Driving". He wont stop decisions we make for ourselves if its against his will. And if we take one of his lives in the process including our own, then into the flames ye go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 I believe he does know when your gonna die, Like say he has a calender and my name is marked on it"Foundsheep will make the bad decision of drinking and Driving". He wont stop decisions we make for ourselves if its against his will. And if we take one of his lives in the process including our own, then into the flames ye go! i understand that analogy but what about the deaths that happen that are of NO DECISION making?? is it really God's will for those who mourn to mourn? yet the Bible talks about mourning and being comforted....sometimes the questions that cannot be TRULY answered with a definite are the ones that are the hardest for me to deal with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Of course it is not God's will for us to mourn. He understands why we mourn, but we should really rejoice! If we know that they lived a faithful life on earth, than we should be filled with joy to know that they are living forever with our King! See my post on your other thread, DM. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 That is just one of the mysterys of the Father. Love for a persons physical presence is just one of those loves of this world that some will never be able to let go. But one cannot expect someone to just get over it. But we must all remember Life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 DM, has someone past on? Just checking if comfort is what your seeking. But if its just questions then ignore the beginning of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 Thanks geetarplayer...your posts have been helpful...my next question is, why does death of a loved one sometimes shake our faith and we go through rocky times because of this?.....why do we question so many things after someone dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCat Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 I question things after someone dies because I don't understand the reason that the death had to happen. When I am hurt by something, death in the case, I want to know why I was hurt and why the person on thing hurt me. In the case of death it's impossible to ask the person who died why. And it's not always their decision to die or their decision that led to the event of their death. So to me the logical place to direct my question to God. My questions that I direct to God are usually began because of my unstablitlty in my faith. The best part are when my questions are answered becuase I grow closer to God and stronger in my faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 A dear friend died on the day of his 22 birthday. He was my brothers best friend and a wonderful friend to our whole family. Our families were friends, we went to school together, we played together, he was the most perfect example of a "saint in the making" i had ever seen. He died in a horrible car accident. His family didn't ask questions. They didn't get angry at God. They prayed and cried and said over and over, "Thank God for Marcus" "Thank God for his time he had with us". I was such in awe and completely humbled by thier response to this tradegy not because they had so much love for thier son, and brother, but thier LOVE for GOD was WAY above that. Sure we cried, sure we mourned, but we hope that we will see him again. We remember him, we are reminded of him, but trust in God, complete trust in God is what will get us through the tough times. I didn't know what exactly that was until I saw this family react. I pray that I can come in total submission to whatever happens down the road, ultimatley following the Blessed Mothers example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 DM, has someone past on? Just checking if comfort is what your seeking. But if its just questions then ignore the beginning of this post. actually foundsheep, yes, my grandfather died of a massive heart attack on christmas last year(well, we had christmas on the 21st--which is today) about 20minutes before the family got there...all of christmas we were not celebrating Christmas but we were in the funeral home making arrangements and dealing with such a tragedy...you see, he was 63 and healthy--so the doctors always said--but was taking a shower and had a massive heart attack...and the rest is history.... so, when you ask if i'm seeking comfort...yes, in ways, i am...when you ask if i'm asking questions...yes, i definitely am....i don't want the comforting answer though, i want the truth...i want to know how others feel and think about such things...i want to understand things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCat Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 DM, I don't think we will ever be able to understand why things happen the way they do. Jmjtina, I desire to have that trust in God that your friends parents do. When I started asking questions about the death of people close to me, my first questoin was why. I asked it over and over and over again. And I felt i had no response. Well I had no response that i could see. I became angry at God. I have became angry at myself for being angry at God. With time I have became less and less angry at God, but i still don't trust Him. I want to trust Him with all of my heart, but I still don't trust my self. Beng, I don't belive her comments were that of a spoiled child. I believe that was the comment of a child of God yearning for knowledge, yearning for Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiringMore Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 The moral of this? Put up or shut up. What is this suppose to mean?? you know, so many people ask these questions especially those who have no faith in God...i'm sorry if you feel it is so easy beng...maybe i will just shut up... :sadder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjtina Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 :mellow: No, these questions are human. Trusting God is hard, but isn't impossible. We are human and we do fall. Rather, ours should be as Jesus, "Let not my will, but yours be done." God the Father who so willed it for LOVE for us. So Jesus came to do the Father's will and thus died on the Cross for LOVE for us. The moral of the story isn't put up or shut up, but one of LOVE. To die for one's friends. To love one another. Please remember charity above all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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