I am taking the Mormon "Pepsi challenge"

[ReinnieR]

[quote name='Theoketos' date='Mar 31 2006, 01:33 PM']Read a Catholic Commentary on the book as well.
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where might one find that??

Edited April 1, 2006 by ReinnieR

[furay]

[quote name='peach_cube' date='Mar 31 2006, 06:28 PM']I tried taking the challenge, but the book of Mormon was just too boring for me.  I couldn't help thinking that it was all made up b.s.
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Yeah, the book of mormon is a total snooze fest. I have two copies of it lying around somewhere that are crying out to me to burn them. One day I'll get around to it.

[jswranch]

He and I are still negotiating a contract of sorts. He initially stated I had to give concrete reasons if I wanted to reject TBM. I told him these were too flimsy. I don't want to spend the energy reading the entire book of for him to say "You did not seek God's truth with a humble heart."

[missionarybelle]

Beginning apologetics 2 (the one about mormons and JWs) is VERY helpful

[jswranch]

[quote name='missionarybelle' date='Apr 6 2006, 07:29 AM']Beginning apologetics 2 (the one about mormons and JWs) is VERY helpful
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I am not sure what you are referring to in "Beginning apologetics 2." Is this a book?

[Brother Adam]

yes, but not nearly in depth enough for the challenge this mormon will likely pose.

[missionarybelle]

true it is a book (i'm sorryt hat I didn't state that) but it's mostly for getting your feet wet with Mormonism and JV. They do have some great stuff but it stays fairly basic. It's great if you want to learn a little about their religion (enough to answer the door to door stuff ok) but don't want to read a novel about it.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='jswranch' date='Mar 31 2006, 01:56 AM']During an Inter-Faith discussion, my Mormon buddy drew a line in the sand.  I accepted.  He mentioned the LDS dogma about entirely reading The Book of Mormon (TBM):

"Those who pursue this course [reading the TBM after asking God to show its truth and pondering it in their hearts] and ask in faith will gain a testimony of its truth and divinity by the power of the Holy Ghost. (TBM Moroni10:3-5)

He told me that if I did the above and explained to him how the TBM was not true, he would become Catholic.  I accepted his Pespi challenge. 

Keep me in your prayers and I will keep you posted.
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Be sure to read through these before you finish the book. Take notes in regards to the book. Reading these before you finish will help you pick it apart....

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Problems_with_the_Book_of_Mormon.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Problems_w...k_of_Mormon.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Distinctive_Beliefs_of_Mormon.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Distinctiv...s_of_Mormon.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormon_Stumpers.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormon_Stumpers.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormonism_Baptism_for_the_Dead.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Mormonism_...or_the_Dead.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Gods_of_the_Mormon_Church.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Gods_of_th...rmon_Church.asp[/url]


God Bless,
ironmonk

[ironmonk]

Also another feather in your cap to use would be what he has been told about the Catholic Church and what the Catholic Church really teaches.


God Bless!
ironmonk

[ironmonk]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 31 2006, 11:48 AM']right...but I still don't get it?
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The pepsi challenge was a commericial back in the 80's... it had to do with a blind taste test between Pepsi and Coke.

So because it's a "Pepsi" challenge, since he drinks Catholicism, they want him to "taste" Mormonism.

God Bless,
ironmonk

[ironmonk]

[quote name='ReinnieR' date='Mar 31 2006, 09:49 PM']where might one find that??
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See Post #23 above

There are just so many errors.

[Craftygrl06]

Mormons are the pepsi clear, what with their attempts to mimick christianity, but falling short of "the real thing"....or is that slogan coke...

Catholocism is the dark, more filling pepsi ORIGINAL!

That was my attempt at a metaphor...how sad...this is why i am an artist, not a wordsmith

[dspen2005]

even so, craftygrl... the angels sang and the Blessed Mother smiled at your attempt..

[thessalonian]

I have to say that I don't recommend that anyone take seriously their pepsi challenge. We've been given the grace already to KNOW that the Catholic faith is the fullness of the faith. To do their challenge seriously in my mind puts one's faith in jepordy and opens them up to a potential fall in to heresy, just as much as dabbling in demonism does, even though one is not Catholic. The source of Mormonism is not God. This is obvious from a study of the book, 60% of which is simply a copy of Isaihi from a King James English verision of scripture. Odd how an American in the 18th century would translate in to KJE, oh, unless he had a KJE Bible around. It would be interesting to see if it has the same language usage as Bibles of the time. There are also glaring errors such as Horses in North America before the white man ever came here. Also in 2 Nephi it says "Bibles, Bibles, we've God Bibles". Now interestingly enough this was supposed to have been said in 600 BC. . Get the problem. There was nothing called a Bible for another 1000 years. It is however quite fitting for a 19th century Protestant strugging with all the denominations all claiming to have the truth about the bible as Joseph Smith was struggling with his Methodist faith. He was also a 32nd degree Mason and many of the temple rituals are closely related to Masonry.

If you want a good book on Mormonism read a Tale Of Two Cities by Fr. William Taylor. It is a fair analysis of Mormonism and the book of Mormon, comparing it all to Catholicism.

[url="http://www.catholic-rcia.com/pages/Tale_RCIA.html"]http://www.catholic-rcia.com/pages/Tale_RCIA.html[/url]

There is also a book in the beginning apologetics series on Mormonism

[url="http://www.catholicfreeshipping.com/Products/cfs_gensym-56.html"]http://www.catholicfreeshipping.com/Produc..._gensym-56.html[/url]

and if you go to Catholic.com they have a good book on Mormonism as well.

I think the Catholic authors tend to be fair to othere religions.
By the way I spent 8 years in Utah and dated a Mormon for a year and a half. I even read the book of mormon but found it terribly boring. Just a bunch of nonsense about indian wars that were supposed to have happened.

Don't get me wrong I have plenty of Mormon friends and they in general are nice people, though the ones in Utah are cliquish. I think there have been some very unfair books written about them by Dave Hunt and others like him. That are simply bashing. Of course Hunt likes to bash anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with him.

My 2 cents.

[JudgedByGod]

I just started reading the Book of Mormon. I have friends who are/were/interested in Mormonism and it's been hard to help bring them to an understanding of the Truth without reading it. We'll see if I can actually get through the whole thing, but hopefully with a very objective eye it'll prove to be helpful.