zunshynn Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I know Hitler was not Christian, and that he repeatedly said that the Catholic and Protestant churches were completely incompatible with his plans for Germany. But did he ever say something specificaly against Jesus? Because I know someone at school that is claiming he was a Christian. I mean obviously his actions were not, but he says he did believe in Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 To be against the bride (the Church) is to be against the bridgroom (Christ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) [quote name='zunshynn' date='Mar 27 2006, 10:52 AM']I know Hitler was not Christian, and that he repeatedly said that the Catholic and Protestant churches were completely incompatible with his plans for Germany. But did he ever say something specificaly against Jesus? Because I know someone at school that is claiming he was a Christian. I mean obviously his actions were not, but he says he did believe in Jesus. [right][snapback]923719[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yeah, to be against the Church would in effect mean Hitler was against Christ. Considering his treatment of all Christians during that time I would say he wasn't Christian. Also considering that he was responsible for killing so many people I definitely would say that it wasn't very Christian behavior! Edited March 27, 2006 by StColette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StColette Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler: Night of 11th-12th July, 1941: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7) 10th October, 1941, midday: Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43) 14th October, 1941, midday: The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity [is] the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52) 19th October, 1941, night: The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. 21st October, 1941, midday: Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, flowers? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St. Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65) 13th December, 1941, midnight: Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... [here he insults people who believe transubstantiation] .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119) 14th December, 1941, midday: Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120) 9th April, 1942, dinner: There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339) 27th February, 1942, midday: It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold its demise." (p 278) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 he is Catholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 [quote name='ReinnieR' date='Mar 27 2006, 03:27 PM']he is Catholic [right][snapback]923913[/snapback][/right] [/quote] he was born into a Catholic family, but one can hardly call him a Catholic. the quotes provided above show that he had long since separated himself from the Church. also, he was excommunicated ipso facto b/c of his war crimes and his beliefs, and in 1930, the German bishops excommunicated all nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='ReinnieR' date='Mar 27 2006, 01:27 PM']he is Catholic [right][snapback]923913[/snapback][/right] [/quote] How can you say that after reading the above quotes, Reinnie? Catholicism isn't an ethnicity, it's a faith; being born into a Catholic family does not make one Catholic for life. In the case of Adolf Hitler, there is a Himalaya of damning and conclusive evidence that he was most certainly not a Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='Nathan' date='Mar 27 2006, 05:36 PM']How can you say that after reading the above quotes, Reinnie? Catholicism isn't an ethnicity, it's a faith; being born into a Catholic family does not make one Catholic for life. In the case of Adolf Hitler, there is a Himalaya of damning and conclusive evidence that he was most certainly not a Catholic. [right][snapback]924184[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that's all i meant. he was born in to it. i didn't say that he was faithful to his religion. that's all i said. i'm sorry if that offended you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 He was baptised catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peccator Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 He was not a catholic...being a catholic is more than being baptised as one. A Catholic would never have legalised euthanasia. A Catholic would never have people different (Jews, gypsies, clergy, heck just about everyone that disagreed with him) placed in camps and butchered off. A Catholic would never have started a war with the aim of cleaning another nation/race off the faith of the earth. (…and the list goes on..) He was no catholic, he was an insane sexual degenerate who destroyed the lives of millions (even hundreds of millions) and cursed his people with a guilt that time will never heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='Peccator' date='Mar 27 2006, 11:44 PM']He was not a catholic...being a catholic is more than being baptised as one. A Catholic would never have legalised euthanasia. A Catholic would never have people different (Jews, gypsies, clergy, heck just about everyone that disagreed with him) placed in camps and butchered off. A Catholic would never have started a war with the aim of cleaning another nation/race off the faith of the earth. (…and the list goes on..) He was no catholic, he was an insane sexual degenerate who destroyed the lives of millions (even hundreds of millions) and cursed his people with a guilt that time will never heal. [right][snapback]924750[/snapback][/right] [/quote] would you say that a catholic woldn't abort her baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peccator Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) [quote name='ReinnieR' date='Mar 28 2006, 07:57 AM']would you say that a catholic woldn't abort her baby? [right][snapback]924751[/snapback][/right] [/quote]I priest would have said that a real Catholic would never do something like that...only a RC would (retired catholic : ) My opinion is no, a Catholic would no have...but that does not mean they cant be forgiven, because they can. I've not seen any proof however Hitler did (in fact I've seen no evidence to proof he ever practised his faith), so in my opinion he was not a Catholic...he only miss used faith when it suited him. Edited March 28, 2006 by Peccator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='Peccator' date='Mar 28 2006, 12:08 AM']I priest would have said that a real Catholic would never do something like that...only a RC would (retired catholic : ) My opinion is no, a Catholic would no have...but that does not mean they cant be forgiven, because they can. I've not seen any proof however Hitler did (in fact I've seen no evidence to proof he ever practised his faith), so in my opinion he was not a Catholic...he only miss used faith when it suited him. [right][snapback]924753[/snapback][/right] [/quote] my sister aborted her child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peccator Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='ReinnieR' date='Mar 28 2006, 08:14 AM']my sister aborted her child [right][snapback]924754[/snapback][/right] [/quote]As did my mother with her first child before he had me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Mar 27 2006, 08:06 PM']He was baptised catholic. [right][snapback]924371[/snapback][/right] [/quote] So were millions of the world's militant, anti-Christian Atheists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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