toledo_jesus Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 what a silly question. is it essential to faith and morals? interesting science talk though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Mar 15 2006, 05:58 PM']What type of astronomical system do you believe in? We personally are a Geo-Centrist, and We are wondering what most phatmassers are. Also, seeing as most helio-centrists do not believe the sun is the centre of the universe, but rather, the centre of the "solar system" we would like to, for the purposes of this pole, define helio-centrism as the belief that the earth revolves around the sun. [right][snapback]912811[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I believe in the heliocentric system. Do you have a link(s) that explain geocentrism? I would like to know how you explain parallax. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Mar 15 2006, 05:58 PM']What type of astronomical system do you believe in? We personally are a Geo-Centrist, and We are wondering what most phatmassers are. Also, seeing as most helio-centrists do not believe the sun is the centre of the universe, but rather, the centre of the "solar system" we would like to, for the purposes of this pole, define helio-centrism as the belief that the earth revolves around the sun. [right][snapback]912811[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The only people who describe themselves as "we" are royalty, editors, nutcases, and people with tapeworms..... the earth is located in the quiet suburbs of our galaxy, expanding away just like its neighbors...off we go into the wild blue yonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Mar 20 2006, 08:55 AM']The only people who describe themselves as "we" are royalty, editors, nutcases, and people with tapeworms..... [right][snapback]915509[/snapback][/right] [/quote] We do not like your suggestion here. You will be assimilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Walker Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 (edited) The possibility that the universe has a fixed axis (central point of reference) potentially throws some of the assertions of the theory of relativity into question. It also makes ancient cosmological models more accurate than those who discarded them might have realized. Edited March 20, 2006 by Desert Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdewolf2 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 [quote]My understanding of the modern physics is that there is such thing as absolute space and time. The General and Special Theories of Relativity postulate that there is an absolute reference and it is where one is not acted upon by any forces.[/quote] I'm not an expert so I could be wrong, but my understanding was that relativity's only constant is the speed of light. Nonetheless, the argument stands. It's impossibly to know whether the earth revolves around the sun, or vice versa; only relative motion can be observed. Copernicus is only accepted by virtue of the relative simplicity of the model compared with Aristotle's multiplicity of epicycles, or Tycho Brahe's rather baseless supposition that the [i]other[/i] planets revolve around the sun, whereas the sun revolves around the earth. However, simplicity does not always guarantee truth, so the truth is known only to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Mar 20 2006, 09:18 AM']We do not like your suggestion here. You will be assimilated.  [right][snapback]915519[/snapback][/right] [/quote] So you HAVE been eating raw pork??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 According to General Relativity, it's totally arbitrary where the center of the universe is. If you were to go past the "borders" of the universe, there are a few theories as to what would happen, but the most popular belief is that you'd wind up at the opposite side of the universe like in Pac-Man. It's pretty difficult to visualize why this happens, but the same goes for everything else beyond quantum barrier tunneling. The universe IS NOT INFINITE. it's perfectly obvious that the present universe is expanding, and for an infinite structure to expand is just senseless. As for Special Relativity, the only absolute is the speed of a body through spacetime. I feel like there was something else that was absolute, but I'd have to dig up my notes and it wasn't that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markjwyatt Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Wow, so few votes fro geocentrism. [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/12/435-polled-on-catholic-apologetics.html"]Catholic Answers[/url] voted much differently. See my three part series on geocentrism: [b]Geocentricity 101: A beginner's Course[/b] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentricity-101-part-i.html"]Part I Basic Principles[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentrism-101-part-ii.html"]Part II: Basic Physics[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentrism-101-part-iii-scriptural.html"]Part III: Scripture and Church Position[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/10/geocentricity-101-supplement.html"]Supplement: Church Position[/url] Also, Robert Sungenis, Ph.D. and Robert Bennett, Ph.D will be releasing Part I of [i]Galileo Was Wrong[/i], very soon. This book will blow the lid off this issue. Keep an open mind, and read the book. Mark Wyatt www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriel Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Geometrically in order for their to be a center there needs to be a designated perimeter. Are there walls to space? If there are, how can we be sure there isn't more on the other side of the walls? If one can map an "ejection" of the different masses in the universe and can trace things back to an "origin" then this leads to a confirmation of the big-band theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Walker Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 (edited) The Truth. [img]http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/0893850284.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V57104510_.jpg[/img] Edited March 27, 2006 by Desert Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 [quote name='Markjwyatt' date='Mar 26 2006, 08:37 PM']Wow, so few votes fro geocentrism. [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/12/435-polled-on-catholic-apologetics.html"]Catholic Answers[/url] voted much differently. See my three part series on geocentrism: [b]Geocentricity 101: A beginner's Course[/b] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentricity-101-part-i.html"]Part I Basic Principles[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentrism-101-part-ii.html"]Part II: Basic Physics[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/08/geocentrism-101-part-iii-scriptural.html"]Part III: Scripture and Church Position[/url] [url="http://veritas-catholic.blogspot.com/2005/10/geocentricity-101-supplement.html"]Supplement: Church Position[/url] Also, Robert Sungenis, Ph.D. and Robert Bennett, Ph.D will be releasing Part I of [i]Galileo Was Wrong[/i], very soon. This book will blow the lid off this issue. Keep an open mind, and read the book. Mark Wyatt www.veritas-catholic.blogspot.com [right][snapback]923076[/snapback][/right] [/quote] What is Sungenis' PhD in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSW Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 My brain hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenchild17 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 oops, sorry I didn't know voting in a poll took it to the top of the page again ... :Dead thread warning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I think God is The Center of the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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