Theoketos Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 That he has autism is not the reason that he may not recieve. It is the fact that he cannot swallow the host. Applying the the precious blood to his tongue would be the solution. Socrates, please forgive me is I was to harsh, normally it is indeed madness to disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Perhaps. . .if he has the capacity to understand that concept. The article states that he was making a fuss the one Sunday when he couldn't receive. I don't know if he understands that those were the directives of his bishop (regardless of his autism). Isn't he only 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Mar 7 2006, 06:28 PM']That he has autism is not the reason that he may not recieve. It is the fact that he cannot swallow the host. Applying the the precious blood to his tongue would be the solution. [right][snapback]905850[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Right, it's because he cannot swallow. . .or won't swallow. It's due to his autism that he won't swallow certain textures and colors of foods/liquids, right? I'm wondering, when the family states that they've tried only the Precious Blood, how much they gave him, since they said he spit that out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 [url="http://www.canonlaw.info/2006/03/autism-and-eucharist-phoenix-case_07.html"]A canon lawyer's perspective on this case.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Thank you for sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 [quote name='cappie' date='Mar 6 2006, 05:56 PM']Church denies Communion to autistic boy he Catholic Church has told the parents of a 10-year-old autistic boy that, because the child cannot consume the host, he is not receiving Communion properly. Until he does, church officials say, he cannot partake of the church's most meaningful sacrament. According to a letter from Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted, delivered to the Lake Havasu City family on Feb. 12, the boy cannot accept Communion in the Catholic Church until he can "actually receive the Eucharist, actually take and eat." Because of his condition, Matthew Moran cannot swallow foods with certain textures. So Matthew, who received his First Communion nearly three years ago in Pennsylvania, participates in Communion in an unusual way. As his father watches, the boy takes the Communion wafer and places it in his mouth. His father, Nick Moran, then removes it and consumes the host himself. Otherwise, Matthew would spit it out, his father says. Moran, who takes only the one host for himself, says it remains in the boy's mouth for several seconds. He says the bishop's letter has caused anger, anxiety and frustration in his home. "We are out of our minds over this," said the father, who with his wife, Dr. Jean Weaver, has two other children, one of them also disabled. Phoenix Diocese officials contend that Matthew has not been prohibited from Communion, only that the bishop is "not able to approve the present practice," according to his letter. He offered assistance, which has come in the form of various hosts for Matthew to try, educational material and other recommendations for the parents, including respite care, in which trained personnel would look after the children while the parents took time for themselves. [url="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0304communion0304.html"]Source[/url] [right][snapback]904406[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oh how utterly stupid. Give him the Blood. One drop is enough. So freaking stupid. This and the people in Huntington Beach getting kicked out of their diocese for kneeling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 you're joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 No joke. Read the thread about 'schism'. It's awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Mar 8 2006, 11:30 AM']Oh how utterly stupid. Give him the Blood. One drop is enough. So freaking stupid. This and the people in Huntington Beach getting kicked out of their diocese for kneeling... [right][snapback]906570[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I could be wrong, but it looks like they've *tried* to have him receive in the appearance of wine, but he spits it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catholicinsd Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Meanwhile, this family is totally justified in leaving the Church. Terri Schiavo, RIP, received Communion and she was worse than this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' date='Mar 8 2006, 08:43 PM']Meanwhile, this family is totally justified in leaving the Church. Terri Schiavo, RIP, received Communion and she was worse than this kid. [right][snapback]906983[/snapback][/right] [/quote] WHAT?!?!?!?!? ummm . . . [b][u]*NO*[/u][/b] a person is *NEVER* justified in leaving The Church of their own free will. There may be extenuating circumstances, but that wouldn't justify leaving The Church. Terri Schiavo has nothing to do with this case: she could consume the host. The entire problem with this case is that the boy cannot consume the host. If he could the priest and bishop would let him. They're trying to find a way around this trial, but have yet to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 [color=#ff0066]I understand the rhyme and reason and logic behind why they are denying him the Eucharist, but my heart is absolutely breaking for him. This makes me so sad, for a boy in such state of illness not to be able to receive our Lord. Surely there are angels ministering to him and graces being poured out on him like crazy! [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 [quote name='MagiDragon' date='Mar 8 2006, 10:38 PM']I could be wrong, but it looks like they've *tried* to have him receive in the appearance of wine, but he spits it out. [right][snapback]906977[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think it would be impossible to spit out a drop of wine. A single drop. It would be absorbed in his mouth almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Mar 8 2006, 09:29 PM']I think it would be impossible to spit out a drop of wine. A single drop. It would be absorbed in his mouth almost immediately. [right][snapback]907011[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yeah, i would think so . . . but if he even tries to spit it out it would be rather difficult to give continued permission for him to receive that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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