simplemama Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [url="http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/abortioninfo/misconce.shtml"]http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.o.../misconce.shtml[/url] i am stunned that such garbage exists...Satan loves this site.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote]Being born is a gift, not a right. People don't ask to be born, and some even wish they weren't. [/quote] ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Punk Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) [quote]Most people reject the position that abortion is always wrong. In fact, abortion often has positive benefits for women's lives and health. Many people believe that bringing an unwanted child into the world is a crime, and that forcing a woman to have a child against her will is morally wrong. Many who are opposed to abortion for religious or moral reasons believe that it is wrong to impose their values by civil law on everyone.[/quote] Ahhhh what planet do these A-holes live one. Check this [url="http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/photo_doc/2005/essay.asp?Jaimal_Yogis"]http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/ph...sp?Jaimal_Yogis[/url] The girl in this picture doesnt look like she had a very positive benefits from an abortion! [quote]If fetal rights were enshrined in law, women's bodies, rights, and health would be subordinated to the protection of embryos. The legal consequences of such a law would be catastrophic. The best way to protect the fetus is to promote the health and well-being of women.[/quote] If these laws are in a democracy wouldnt that mean that every party should get to decided the fate of the baby, not just one party (the mother)? Last time I checked it takes a Father to make a baby? or maybe Im wrong? And why does the baby get a vote? [quote]Most Canadians believe that abortion should be illegal. The majority rules in a democracy. About 78% of Canadians believe that abortion is a private matter between a woman and her doctor. Human rights are guaranteed for everyone and are not subject to the whim of the electorate. Even if only a minority believed in freedom of choice, that right should be protected from the tyranny of the majority.[/quote] Im Canadian and I believe it should be illegal. A-HOLES Edited March 4, 2006 by Church Punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Punk Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Im so pissed off right now Im going to email them. I can beleive they actually have membership fees for this crapiola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote][i]If abortion were made illegal again, women would not return to coat-hanger abortions or back-alley butchers. Safe, modern technology will be available to non-physicians, and it would be relatively easy to get an abortion.[/i] If abortion were illegal, well-intentioned but unskilled practitioners would perforate uteruses, misjudge the length of gestation, do incomplete abortions, and otherwise botch the procedure. Women's health would suffer and the death rate soar. Further, women would once more be forced to break the law to receive necessary medical care, and their dignity would be lost in the process. Also, this argument, by admitting that abortions would continue under anti-abortion laws, exposes the real goal behind recriminalizing abortion---to punish women.[/quote] How about just not having an abortion. Oh, those poor women using coat hangers.. wtfreak? No body is making them. Abortion is not necesary medical care. Women's health and death rates would be fine if they wouldnt be so stubborn and insist on using coat hangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote]The Adam and Eve myth can more justly be interpreted in a way that empowers and validates women. It was Eve, not Adam, who desired knowledge and so picked the fruit from the “tree of knowledge of good and evil". She appreciated the beauty of the tree, saw that its fruit looked delicious, and wanted the wisdom she believed the tree would give her (Genesis 3:6). It was Eve's courage and initiative—her reaching out for beauty, truth, and independence—that gave human beings the powers of knowledge and free will. It was Eve that turned us into rational, moralizing human beings, instead of the obedient and mindlessly happy peons that God created. Ironically, our capacity to disobey was there from the start, but this is only further proof that Eve should not be blamed, but instead admired, because she overcome passivity to exercise her God-given ability. (In contrast to Eve, Adam stood by as a submissive follower, eating the fruit Eve offered him, and then blaming Eve before God instead of defending her!) Using this perfectly valid interpretation of woman's moral nature, the abortion decision is solidly justified on theological grounds. The basic stance of the many moderate religious groups and churches that promote choice on abortion is that all human beings have free will, a capacity given to them by God at the beginning of creation. The ability to exercise one's free will is a necessary component of moral responsibility and growth. Free will defines the essence of being human—it makes us fallible, but it also gives us responsibility and freedom. If women are denied free will—if they are prohibited from making their own moral decisions about their bodies and their lives, it means that their very humanity, the way God made them, is being violated and denied.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionseeker Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote]The Adam and Eve myth can more justly be interpreted in a way that empowers and validates women. It was Eve, not Adam, who desired knowledge and so picked the fruit from the “tree of knowledge of good and evil". She appreciated the beauty of the tree, saw that its fruit looked delicious, and wanted the wisdom she believed the tree would give her (Genesis 3:6). It was Eve's courage and initiative—her reaching out for beauty, truth, and independence—that gave human beings the powers of knowledge and free will. It was Eve that turned us into rational, moralizing human beings, instead of the obedient and mindlessly happy peons that God created. Ironically, our capacity to disobey was there from the start, but this is only further proof that Eve should not be blamed, but instead admired, because she overcome passivity to exercise her God-given ability. (In contrast to Eve, Adam stood by as a submissive follower, eating the fruit Eve offered him, and then blaming Eve before God instead of defending her!) Using this perfectly valid interpretation of woman's moral nature, the abortion decision is solidly justified on theological grounds. The basic stance of the many moderate religious groups and churches that promote choice on abortion is that all human beings have free will, a capacity given to them by God at the beginning of creation. The ability to exercise one's free will is a necessary component of moral responsibility and growth. Free will defines the essence of being human—it makes us fallible, but it also gives us responsibility and freedom. If women are denied free will—if they are prohibited from making their own moral decisions about their bodies and their lives, it means that their very humanity, the way God made them, is being violated and denied.[/quote] Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossCuT Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) [color=330000]Im laughing. Who wrote this? They are not even using their brains! They are just saying it for the sake of the argument! THEY ARE SO DUMB![/color] [quote] If the continuation of abortion was stopped, the world would explode![/quote] [color=330000] Well, maybe they DIDNT say that...but basically that is what they are getting at. [/color] Edited March 4, 2006 by CrossCuT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Soze Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Are these people on a race to see who gets to hell first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote]It was Eve's courage and initiative—her reaching out for beauty, truth, and independence—that gave human beings the powers of knowledge and free will. It was Eve that turned us into rational, moralizing human beings, instead of the obedient and mindlessly happy peons that God created.[/quote]Actually free will was there in the first place and that is exactly why Eve was able to do what she did. Secondly, we had the use of knowledge and reason. That is why it was a morally culpable act. These people need to take moral theology 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avemaria40 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Don't they realize that because of abortion and birth control, so many countries have populations well below replacement levels? "Some ppl don't even wish to be born" Oh yea, b/c u can know what a baby in the womb is thinking, :SARCASM: "religions hate it so it has to be religious" I guess they haven't heard of Left Out (a site for secular, progressive liberals who are against abortion), or godlessprolifers.com (an organization for atheists and agnostics against abortion) "It's a woman's right to her body" Give me a break, b/c of abortion, many woman won't have a right to their bodies at all, b/c they will have been killed in the womb by abortion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeschoolmom Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote]Most Canadians believe that abortion should be illegal. [b]The majority rules in a democracy.[/b]About 78% of Canadians believe that abortion is a private matter between a woman and her doctor. Human rights are guaranteed for everyone and are not subject to the whim of the electorate. [b]Even if only a minority believed in freedom of choice, that right should be protected from the tyranny of the majority[/b][/quote]. I disagree with this paragraph, but don't they even see the double speak of their own propaganda??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I think Im going to be sick..... How can they be so outwardly selfish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel's angel Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 look at this: [url="http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=100369&ran=66485"]http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story...00369&ran=66485[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagiDragon Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Mar 4 2006, 09:23 AM']look at this: [url="http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=100369&ran=66485"]http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story...00369&ran=66485[/url] [right][snapback]902796[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That's really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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