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Aloysius

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do diocesan boundaries ever cross state lines?

and is there perhaps a place where you can get a map of where all the boundary lines are drawn?

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In the Eastern Churches they do (eg, the Eparchy of Newton encompasses most of the East coast). I'm not sure if there are any such Roman dioceses.

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yeah I found that shortly after I posted this, and it seems they are consistent with county lines. anyway, the reason for me figuring this out has been satisfied but I'm still curious...

but what comes first, the chicken or the egg? diocese lines or county/state lines? do we map out the diocese lines where the county lines already are? I suppose we must... hmm..

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cmotherofpirl

The county boundaries have changed, we were once almost all Westmoreland County. But the diocese I think used to cover all of Western Pa.

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yeah
[url="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/"]http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/[/url]
catholic-hierarchy.org has good information, first we came out of the diocese of philadelphia and then the diocese of erie came out of us, then the diocese of greensburg

but I'm interested nationwide as to whether a diocese is defined by the state's county lines from the start, or whether any diocesan borders split counties and/or occupy 2 different states... hmm...

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[quote name='magnificat' date='Feb 22 2006, 09:29 AM']sorry to somewhat hijack the thread...but how are parish boundaries drawn?
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that's the exact thing I was saying, no hijack ;)

so I was able to figure out the property I'm buying is still in the diocese of pittsburgh; but now I am curious as to this as well... if they are not merely groups of already pre-existing counties, I"d like to see a map of the Catholic world divided by its parishes. that would be so sweet.

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[quote name='Aloysius' date='Feb 22 2006, 12:26 PM'] I"d like to see a map of the Catholic world divided by its parishes.  that would be so sweet.
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dude, now that would be an insanely complicated map!! would you include stational churches?? what about overlapping parish boundaries??

btw, anyone actually have the answer to these questions or are we just going to keep asking questions?? Hmm..maybe it's time to hit up some of my priest friends! :P:

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lol phatmass usually comes up with some sorts of answers, the right people just haven't come in.

I didn't mean parishes, I meant dioceses.

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[quote name='Aloysius' date='Feb 22 2006, 07:52 AM']lol phatmass usually comes up with some sorts of answers, the right people just haven't come in.

I didn't mean parishes, I meant dioceses.
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actually i meant dioceses, not parishes, i am so confused

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catholicflower

Dioceses do cross state boundries. The Archdiocese of Washington DC (although not technically a state) has a lot of parishes in Maryland
Jackie

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argent_paladin

Diocese definitely can and have crossed state lines. In fact, the diocese of Baltimore, before 1808 included the entire US (all 13 original states). When the diocese of Boston was first erected, it included Massachusets, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Vermont. The diocese of Oregon City (now Portland) once stretched from the Pacific to the Rockies, encompassing Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Montana. When it was just a vicariate, it actually stretched all the way up to Alaska, to include British Columbia and the Northwest territories, making it perhaps the biggest single ecclesial territory in the world. So, it can even cross international boundaries.

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