Fides_et_Ratio Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Greeley is an odd man/priest. It's a wonder he's still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 He is. . .. and writing romance/mystery novels. I could never figure that out. .. I am a writer. But the things he wrote about. Just. . .surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 It seems Fr. Greeley would be happier if more young people called themselves Catholics but didn't really believe in a lot of what makes up the faith. A more secular, non-believing Catholicism. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilllabettt Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 From my past reading of some of Fr. Greeley's other thoughts, I came to the humble estimation that Father lacks a complete sense of the sacremental nature of the priesthood. I seem to remember him suggesting something about the Church returning to a use of "part-time" priests, priests who minister some of the time, and have ordinary "lay jobs" most of the time. Or something along those lines. I dare say Father would point to himself as a possible model, since he is always so quick to point out that he is a sociologist, writer, journalist, and a priest. Given that, it is hardly suprising to me that he finds the Springtime remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 JMJ 2/20 - Seventh Monday A priest who writes pornographic romance novels has no credibility in my book. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan1104 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='Pio Nono' date='Feb 20 2006, 09:38 AM']JMJ 2/20 - Seventh Monday A priest who writes pornographic romance novels has no credibility in my book. None. [right][snapback]892576[/snapback][/right] [/quote] He should be burned at the stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='brendan1104' date='Feb 20 2006, 01:41 PM']He should be burned at the stake. [right][snapback]892577[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Brendan you can be pretty extreme sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pio Nono Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 JMJ 2/20 - Seventh Monday [quote name='brendan1104' date='Feb 20 2006, 07:41 AM']He should be burned at the stake. [right][snapback]892577[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That dog'll hunt. It's been a long time since we've had a good stake-burning. Maybe we can do it during the St. Lawrence Day Bar-B-Que! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChild Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='Pio Nono' date='Feb 20 2006, 07:38 AM']A priest who writes pornographic romance novels has no credibility in my book. None. [right][snapback]892576[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree. And he's not so hot at the pornographic romance, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy the Ninja Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Feb 18 2006, 10:33 PM']So I suppose Greeley is an old hippie then? It doesn't surprise me at all. As a Gen X Catholic, when I became of age I realized that I was raised on a lot of CCD milquetoast under the guise of Catholicism. [right][snapback]891563[/snapback][/right] [/quote] ME TOO!!! Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Walker Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 In the immortal words of Spock: "Fascinating!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argent_paladin Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 For a sociologist, Greely can be pretty obtuse at times. It is an old canard that the source of dissent in the Church arose from Vatican II. That is not the case. Much more of the blame should come from the reaction of dissenters (especially theologians) at the promulgation of Humanae Vitae in 1968. That is when the majority of America's theologians and not a few bishops publically dissented from a papal encyclical. Since they couldn't read around the language, (i.e. invoke the "spirit of Humanae Vitae", they were forced to dissent. But since HV was grounded in traditional theology, they had to develop a new moral theology (proportionalism) and a new understanding of ecclesiology, the role of conscience, and even God (process theology). All to justify the use of artificial contraception. HV marked the point where dissent became rebellion. Yes, VII opened the door and gave people unrealistic expectations, but it is not VII's fault. The dissenters of HV abused the freedom and authority they were given at VII. Absurdly, people thought that just because the liturgy can change, so can morality, which is prima facie, idiotic. Paul VI didn't write another encyclical for the final ten years of his pontificate, he was so heartbroken at its reception. But God works in mysterious ways. Without the rejection of HV, we probably never would have gotten the Theology of the Body, a truly monumental advance in the Church's understanding of human anthropology and sexual relations. Perhaps 40 years of turmoil is a small price to pay for a theology that will be unpacked for hundreds of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Feb 19 2006, 12:33 AM'] CCD milquetoast [right][snapback]891563[/snapback][/right] [/quote] absolutely gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciana Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 [quote name='Kilroy the Ninja' date='Feb 20 2006, 11:22 AM']ME TOO!!! Amen! [right][snapback]892646[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yep, Gen x, here too. poor catechesis, but awesome pope to discover with the truth. I guess in Fr. Greley's world all faithful young catholics, whether religious, or lay are "young fogueys". LOL [quote name='argent_paladin' date='Feb 20 2006, 04:32 PM']For a sociologist, Greely can be pretty obtuse at times. It is an old canard that the source of dissent in the Church arose from Vatican II. That is not the case. Much more of the blame should come from the reaction of dissenters (especially theologians) at the promulgation of Humanae Vitae in 1968. That is when the majority of America's theologians and not a few bishops publically dissented from a papal encyclical. Since they couldn't read around the language, (i.e. invoke the "spirit of Humanae Vitae", they were forced to dissent. But since HV was grounded in traditional theology, they had to develop a new moral theology (proportionalism) and a new understanding of ecclesiology, the role of conscience, and even God (process theology). All to justify the use of artificial contraception. HV marked the point where dissent became rebellion. Yes, VII opened the door and gave people unrealistic expectations, but it is not VII's fault. The dissenters of HV abused the freedom and authority they were given at VII... ..... [right][snapback]892949[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Exactly, notice what mostof the disenters dissent on--- life issues. Notice what faithful catholics are embracing, true freedom, as expalined in Theology of the Body. Luciana Proud to be a Young Fogey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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