PadreSantiago Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Feb 3, 7:47 AM (ET) By BENJAMIN HARVEY (AP) A woman stands next to a billboard featuring the new Turkish movie "Valley of the Wolves Iraq" in... Full Image ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) - In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother. They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison - where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv. "Valley of the Wolves Iraq" - set to open in Turkey on Friday - feeds off the increasingly negative feelings many Turks harbor toward their longtime NATO allies: Americans. The movie, which reportedly cost some $10 million, is the latest in a new genre of popular culture that demonizes the United States. It comes on the heels of a novel called "Metal Storm" about a war between Turkey and the U.S., which has been a best seller for months. One recent opinion poll revealed the depth of the hostility in Turkey toward Americans: 53 percent of Turks who responded to the 2005 Pew Global Attitudes survey associated Americans with the word "rude"; 70 percent with "violent"; 68 percent with "greedy"; and 57 percent with "immoral." Advance tickets are already selling out across Turkey for the film, which has dialogue in Turkish, Arabic, Kurdish and English. In addition to Turkey, the film is set to be shown in more than a dozen other countries - including the United States, Britain, Germany, The Netherlands, Britain, Denmark, Russia, Egypt, Syria and Australia. The movie's American stars are Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor. U.S. soldiers have become hate figures in Muslim countries around the world after the unpopular war in Iraq. But here in Turkey, a personal grudge fuels the resentment. "Valley of the Wolves Iraq" opens with a true story: On July 4, 2003, in Sulaymaniyah, northern Iraq, troops from the U.S. Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade raided and ransacked a Turkish special forces office, threw hoods over the heads of 11 Turkish special forces officers, and held them in custody for more than two days. The Americans said they had been looking for Iraqi insurgents and unwittingly rounded up the Turks because they were not in uniform. Still, the incident damaged Turkish-U.S. relations and hurt Turkish national pride. Turks traditionally idolize their soldiers; most enthusiastically send their sons off for mandatory military service. In the movie, one of the Turkish special forces officers commits suicide to save his honor. His farewell letter reaches Polat Alemdar, an elite Turkish intelligence officer who travels to northern Iraq with a small group of men to avenge the humiliation. There they find a rogue group of U.S. soldiers led by officer Sam William Marshall - played by Zane. In the bloodfest that ensues, the small band of Turks bonds with the people of Iraq and eventually ends American atrocities there, killing Zane and his men in the final scene. "The scenario is great," Istanbul Mayor Kadir Topbas told The Associated Press after the film was shown at a posh opening gala Tuesday night. "It was very successful. ... a soldier's honor must never be damaged." But Topbas and other Turks at the premiere weren't too concerned about how the movie would be perceived in the United States. "There isn't going to be a war over this," said Nefise Karatay, a Turkish model lounging on a sofa after the premiere. "Everyone knows that Americans have a good side. That's not what this is about." --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Well, if it's in a foreign movie, it must truly be how Americans act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 You know, the Nazis thought we were pretty horrible, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Since you're from Texas, you must know that manytimes you mention to a foreigner that you're from Texas they like it... By the way, how much have you witnessed this animosity yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krostandt Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 [quote]They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison - where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv.[/quote] Well . . . this is typic\al of Americans And considering the past genocides of Turks, how they continue to persecute the Orthodox Christians and deny their past, I think they should be concentrating on their own history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Word. Ararat wasn't that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote]including the United States, [b]Britain[/b], Germany, The Netherlands, [b]Britain[/b], Denmark, Russia, Egypt, Syria and Australia. [/quote]Britian is going to get to see it twice?!? Bad editing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 God Bless America a country where people actually have the cojones to stand up for what they believe unlike in GUTLESS Western Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow of Shame Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote name='PadreSantiago' date='Feb 3 2006, 04:28 PM'] - where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv. [/quote] I heard they leave them in a tub of ice with a note saying to call 911 immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 it must smell of elderberries to be you, "Padre"- an America-hating liberal... and now you can't just go to Canada because they may be sliding to the right also... how do you get out of bed every morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightofChrist Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) God bless the US. Viva La BUSH!!! The world hates us cuz we're NUMBER 1!!!!! : and they aint! Edited February 4, 2006 by KnightofChrist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacenluvbaby Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' date='Feb 3 2006, 02:33 PM']You know, the Nazis thought we were pretty horrible, too. [right][snapback]874741[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Come on...let's not reduce everyone to a group of some of the most deadly forces in orchestrating the deaths, torture, and dehumanization of entire classifications of people (Jews, Roma, gays, political enemies, and anti-Nazis)... That belittles the horror and tragedy of the Holocaust. So, the Turkish film is obviously a biased work of minimal if any true artistic/theatrical merit, but such films as Manderlay are equally dispararaging of the US, though slightly more dignified, and the US industry has made it's own movies that are biased against different countries which are portrayed as lawless, weak or conscious harborers of criminals. Think of how James Bond must have made Russians feel. Ok..that was funny but still, I think we should recognize that some of what is portrayed did happen - Abu Ghraib, the arrest of Turkish soldiers etc... and if that had happened to Americans, some filmmaker might have made a better version of a diatribe against the perpetrating country. Peace out! BTW if there was no war...I don't think we would have this discussion. PEACE PEACE PEACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote]Come on...let's not reduce everyone to a group of some of the most deadly forces in orchestrating the deaths, torture, and dehumanization of entire classifications of people (Jews, Roma, gays, political enemies, and anti-Nazis)... That belittles the horror and tragedy of the Holocaust.[/quote] I think Micah was responding to the claim that if other countries like Turkey think we're bad, then we must be bad. However, since the Nazis also thought we were bad, it kinda denies the claim that just because another country doesn't like us doesn't mean we're not a good country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarf Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Gary Busey's in it, so it has to be good and America HAS to be the new Satan. I can't see how Lounge Daddy is tolerated for being so vicious. I respect differing opinions, but not rabies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietfire Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Gary Busey is a has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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