Dave Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote name='peacenluvbaby' date='Feb 4 2006, 09:45 AM']Lastly, if you look at the converts he's brought in, and the help for the poor...I think we should follow the "the person without sin should cast the first stone" on this one. He has his conscience and has done what he saw as correct... there is no claim that he denied any dogmas or things like that...so let's celebrate the good he has done for the community and the people he brought in. Do you really think Peter or Paul or those guys had great personalities or vocabularies and were very tactful...I dont. And his alcoholism should not be an issue, everyone is human and has problems that we try to work through...plus there was a hereditary disposition added to it. [right][snapback]875519[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You said there was no claim he denied any dogmas ... oh yes there was! He said there was no hell and also that angels didn't exist. And all that weird stuff he did during Mass was inexcusable. Where's his obedience?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avemaria40 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 (edited) It's one thing to be blunt, but bad language is not acceptable, especially in Church, and especially with little children around (and in Mass there are always going to be children) I have a swearing problem too, but I am trying to break it and I think it is one thing if you are with friends who are your own age and don't mind but definetely another when you are walking into Church. I understand that this guy is serving God and helping the poor and that's cool, but when you're saying a homily, and there are young children in Mass, (and there would be at a Christmas Eve Mass), I don't think that parents would be particularly thrilled that their five-year-old would be hearing a description of Our Blessed Mother's birth canal. Also, what about people who really love the Rosary? it seems like he's just dissmissing the graces and benefits that come along with saying the Rosary devoutly and really smacking everyone who finds solace in saying it in the face, not to mention that Our Lady encouraged everyone to pray the Rosary at Fatima Edited February 4, 2006 by avemaria40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Wednesday Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote]Yet Quinlan said he has no regrets about his salty, flamboyant style. “If you believe in the truth,” he said, “you have to preach it as you see it.”[/quote] He needs to get his eyes checked. His denial of the existance of hell, satan or the angels is a big problem. Shock value just doesn't work, either -- for exactly the very reasons that he finds frustrating: these days people are more and more jaded and immune to that. You don't have to add bells and whistles to the Gospel -- the holy spirit steps in and gives you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furay Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 What the...?! This makes me sick to my stomach and the fact that they let him get away with this garbage for so long seriously hurts the integrity of the Catholic Church in my opinion. Why wasn't this bum defrocked and excommunicated years ago? That's downright disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 [quote name='peacenluvbaby' date='Feb 4 2006, 10:45 AM']To me, it sounds like he was unconventional in his methods, but doing a lot of good and that he loves God. Not everyone has to love the rosary... for many people personal dialogue with God, like a conversation is much more fulfilling and amenable than a bunch of repetitive words that perhaps you had bad experiences with (like nuns at school making you say it kneeling while tired, or parents forcing it on you, but they were abusive...it can have baggage) Lastly, if you look at the converts he's brought in, and the help for the poor...I think we should follow the "the person without sin should cast the first stone" on this one. He has his conscience and has done what he saw as correct... there is no claim that he denied any dogmas or things like that...so let's celebrate the good he has done for the community and the people he brought in. Do you really think Peter or Paul or those guys had great personalities or vocabularies and were very tactful...I dont. And his alcoholism should not be an issue, everyone is human and has problems that we try to work through...plus there was a hereditary disposition added to it. Peace [right][snapback]875519[/snapback][/right] [/quote] With all due respect, you aren't here. The man has been a constant embarassment and his 'converts' may not have all that great a grasp of Catholicism. This has been going on since the 1970s. It's past time to put a stop to it. don't be such a naive sucker! Not everyone is repentant, good or nice just cause they claim to be Christian. And just cause a lunatic does some good doesn't mean you celebrate it and forget his misdeeds. There are so many stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P Rhodes Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 This is a man I came to understand and love. He once said to me in a private comversation: My God, and I thought I was immature. TQ. Was a theologian ahead of his time. I eventually saw what he was teaching or showing. Jesus was a rebel Jew and he had to shake up the establishment. He truly believed in Scripture and wanted to show us "where it's at". The message was for you to understand your own spirituality and that was now here on earth everyday. He had his human facilities and so do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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