qfnol31 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 LoL! I don't agree to very much of those, although I do question how you can overemphasize Papal authority too much? Actually, though I'm an EM (trained during my youth, though I don't like to practice and only do so when it's absolutely necessary, as the last two times were...talk about odd! One, the Priest had to leave Mass due to some major failure in his body after the Agnus Dei, and the other because I got stuck with the key to the Tabernacle...I don't like the situation on campus...because no one reposed!), I agree to really nothing on that list. I hope that I'm not pegged as a neo-con too! That means bad things for many people... I hear one side saying that the Papal authority of Quo Primum is complete and forever and that the Pope has authority over individual dioceses, while the other side says the opposite in many ways. What's a Catholic like me supposed to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Thess, thank you, I understand. You've seen enough o' me to know I will call ppl on being rude, and that includes Trads ( of whom some I am down on for various things, including individuals, writers, clergy, Indulters, sspx-ers, etc;). But the sspx weren't thrown out . Ya don't just show up in Rome with 5000 pilgrims - therefore they were allowed to come by arrangement beforehand and churches were open and masses said in various churches. Bishop Fellay preached in St. Peters. Like Paphnutius, I am big on citations but am not allowed to post that one here. Seeing is believing, the pictures speak for themselves. The lines of clergy appeared to be blocks long, the 5000 jammed into St. Peters. "Praying" allegedly, "for the pope." Now how weird is that? Are they all lying? Man, if I thought of the Pope and the Papacy what the sspx is attributed to feeling and thinking, there is no way I'd go to Rome. Rome would be [i]anathema sit.[/i] Like you'd pay money to go to try to attack altar and throne? Maybe 15 would, but 5000? The Vatican thus sends a curious signal in light of [i]Ecclesia Dei Afflicta.[/i] And I'm not helping make things clearer by bringing this up. Neither are they, the Vatican. And we thought that [i]limbo [/i]was being outlawed... Edited February 16, 2006 by Donna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ..."due to some major failure in his body after the Agnus Dei..." Girl you're too funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I'd rather be refered to as an Orthodox Catholic, not a traditionalist, neo-Catholic, liberal Catholic... just Orthodox Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Orthodox or faithful are excellent terms as well, but political labels are not accurate and misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Feb 16 2006, 09:38 AM']Orthodox or faithful are excellent terms as well, but political labels are not accurate and misleading. [right][snapback]889181[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I though that a bit...ironic as well. It said that neo-Catholics are usually focused on the politics more than litrugical matters or theological, yet it is the "trads" that are in engaging in partisan politics within the Church by such labeling. See my comment about Paul and divisions in the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Feb 15 2006, 11:49 PM']LoL! I don't agree to very much of those, although I do question how you can overemphasize Papal authority too much? [/quote] Oh [i]you know[/i], like thinking the pope can tell someone whether he can consecrate more bishops or not... [quote name='qfnol31' date='Feb 15 2006, 11:49 PM'] I agree to really nothing on that list. I hope that I'm not pegged as a neo-con too! That means bad things for many people... I hear one side saying that the Papal authority of Quo Primum is complete and forever and that the Pope has authority over individual dioceses, while the other side says the opposite in many ways. What's a Catholic like me supposed to do! [right][snapback]889000[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You're doing about right when both "sides" pick on you, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Generalis Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 [quote name='philothea' date='Feb 16 2006, 01:23 PM']You're doing about right when both "sides" pick on you, I think. [right][snapback]889345[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You're doing about right when you're doing about right. It doesn't matter which side or sides pick on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colleen Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 [quote name='Donna' date='Feb 16 2006, 01:47 AM']..."due to some major failure in his body after the Agnus Dei..." Girl you're too funny! [right][snapback]889019[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hehe, Q's a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 [quote name='Inquisitor Generalis' date='Feb 16 2006, 04:09 PM']You're doing about right when you're doing about right. It doesn't matter which side or sides pick on you. [right][snapback]889519[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Both sides have gotta pick on you at some point. Maybe they're the sedevacantists in Minnesota (I think..."Pope Pius XIII) or the people who don't believe in God. Either way, there's gotta be someone more to the right of you than you and more to the left than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Feb 16 2006, 05:47 PM']Both sides have gotta pick on you at some point. Maybe they're the sedevacantists in Minnesota (I think..."Pope Pius XIII) or the people who don't believe in God. Either way, there's gotta be someone more to the right of you than you and more to the left than you. [right][snapback]889685[/snapback][/right] [/quote] OH! let us discuss the possbility of an infinite seriies of people being on each side of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Okay, cann't be that because there are finite people. : Either way, I wanna meet the two people who're the perfect poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 qfnol, I beg your pardon. But you are still too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam42 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Feb 16 2006, 07:47 PM']Both sides have gotta pick on you at some point. Maybe they're the sedevacantists in Minnesota (I think..."Pope Pius XIII) or the people who don't believe in God. Either way, there's gotta be someone more to the right of you than you and more to the left than you. [right][snapback]889685[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That would be Montana, not Minnesota. Minnesotans have enough problems, like the Twins, Vikings and Timberwolves. They don't need that laid on them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ora et Labora Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' date='Feb 18 2006, 08:24 AM']That would be Montana, not Minnesota. Minnesotans have enough problems, like the Twins, Vikings and Timberwolves. They don't need that laid on them too. [right][snapback]891105[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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