Catholics Vs. Other Religions

[the_rev]

Ok one person of my youth group said, " If God wants everyone to be Catholic, the religion of Christ, then why would other religion see God at work with miracles, etc" What is the answer. If you don't understand I will elaborate!

[Don John of Austria]

Other than the Pre Christ Jews there are no Miracles outside of the Catholic Church. There are Preternatural events, but demons can perform those, since Christ only the Church has had Positive supernatural events.

[M.SIGGA]

Other than the Pre Christ Jews there are no Miracles outside of the Catholic Church. There are Preternatural events, but demons can perform those, since Christ only the Church has had Positive supernatural events.

Even in Protestant churches? My Baptist friend had a miraculous healing, so that was really a demon? Are you serious?

[Don John of Austria]

It could have been angelic, which agian would be preternatural not supernatural. We all have angels looking after us after all. But miraculous is a word we through around entirely to much, there are very few truely miraculous events. I Have seen miraculous healing a baby who went from going to the ICU to being sent home in less time than it took to ready a room, that seemed miraculous but really doesn't qualify as there was no violation of the laws of nature, only a bending of them, a preternatural event but not a supernatural one. He said Miracle, There have been no confirmed miracles outside of the Catholic Church in the last 2000 years. That means any seemingly miraculous event other than those could be a fake, or natural or demonicly performed. There is no way to know without Church investigation.

[lilac_angel]

Speaking of Church miracles, the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano is nothing to be scoffed at. hehehe.

Ancient Anxanum, the city of the Frentanese, has contained for over twelve centuries the first and greatest Eucharistic Miracle of the Catholic Church.

This wondrous Event took place in the 8th century A.D. in the little Church of St. Legontian, as a divine response to a Basilian monk's doubt about Jesus' Real Presence in the Eucharist.

The Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano

You can see a picture on the page. The analyses were conducted with absolute and unquestionable scientific precision and they were documented with a series of microscopic photographs. Kind of like how the miraculous tilma of Guadelupe was studied.

Edited December 15, 2003 by lilac_angel

[hyperdulia again]

i don't believe in eucharistic miracles.

[ZmeFly]

Let's not forget about the incorruptuble saints!!

Only the Catholic Church has incorruptable saints.

[hyperdulia again]

i do believe in incorruptibles.

[M.SIGGA]

i do believe in incorruptibles.

Me too. I saw Bl. John XXIII, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Pius X , and Bl. Innocent (?) in Rome last year and also St. Catherine Labourd and St. Vincent DePaul in Paris. I was a 'doubting Thomas' until then and they were actually a little bit scary. Bl. John XXIII looked almost alive. If I wasn't Catholic that would have made me convert.

[ZmeFly]

The reason Incorruptibles only exist within the Church because of the Eucharist.

That is why no other church has them. Thier faith enabled God to grant them this priviledge to glorify him.

To say you belive in incoruptables and not in the Holy miracle in the Eucharist is a contradicting statement. You cant have one without the other, without Christ in the Eucharist we are lost. We can't get to God on our own, Jesus is the way the truth and the life. Remember when Jesus went to his home town in the gospel the people had no faith, and he was distressed. No miracles were performed there.

Edited December 15, 2003 by ZmeFly

[Adam]

Even in Protestant churches? My Baptist friend had a miraculous healing, so that was really a demon? Are you serious?

Sure why not? If a protestant church had these "miracles" happening, could it lead people away from the Catholic church to a protestant church where these miracles happen?

May not sound bad, but in reality it leads people out of the Church to protestant Church'd where they reject the truth.

[the_rev]

Sure why not? If a protestant church had these "miracles" happening, could it lead people away from the Catholic church to a protestant church where these miracles happen?

May not sound bad, but in reality it leads people out of the Church to protestant Church'd where they reject the truth.

YEs, that is excatly what is question was, I just couldn't think of how to word it, so that is DAvid's catholics!

[blank]

I'd be careful about accusing demons of performing "miracles". Unless you choose your words carefully, it may make you look crazy. I mean, do demons really have the ability to do anything that would put God in a positive light, i.e. a "miraculous healing"?

I think their hatred of God runs too deep for something like that, and the best they can accomplish are illusions.

God loves all people, not just Catholics, and may allow special graces permitted to those outside of His One True Church. In fact, He wants to give all graces to all people, but Catholics are the only religion who choose to accept all His graces in their entirety. God respects our free will, and we are the only ones who ask for everything He has to offer, especially the unity of the Eucharist. If other Christians / Jews ask God for help or a healing, I don't see why He'd be less likely to offer it just because they weren't Catholic.

Of course, having said all this, I should mention I'm not an expert.

[Seatbelt Blue]

Me too. I saw Bl. John XXIII, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. Pius X , and Bl. Innocent (?) in Rome last year and also St. Catherine Labourd and St. Vincent DePaul in Paris. I was a 'doubting Thomas' until then and they were actually a little bit scary. Bl. John XXIII looked almost alive. If I wasn't Catholic that would have made me convert.

I saw a picture of Bl. John XXIII in a diocesan paper a couple years back. I hadn't heard he was incorruptible; i was running around showing everyone the picture, thinking I had finally found that perfect piece of evidence to convince them.

[M.SIGGA]

I saw a picture of Bl. John XXIII in a diocesan paper a couple years back. I hadn't heard he was incorruptible; i was running around showing everyone the picture, thinking I had finally found that perfect piece of evidence to convince them.

True he was not completely inncorrupt like Sts. Charbel and Bernadette, but he sure looked good for someone who has been dead for almost 40 years. His features weren't inset like a dead body and he looked like he was sleeping. Most old people who die from terminal illness look really bad even on the day of their funerals, and John XXIII looked completely at peace and like he had just fallen asleep!