Global Warming is a hoax.

[dairygirl4u2c]

i am still awaiting for him to respond rationally... to the solar, and volcano information etc. i've posted enough stuff about all this to make the case, that there might be something to this, at least. it's irrefutable that maybe there is.
no ad hominems, just honest scientific response.
i've been waiting for that a long time though, and have made only a little leeway.
you know how the thread always dwindles to everyone leaving, and everyone knowing a person is wrong,,, or at least each side thinking the other is? well, here, there's no doubt, that the conclusions he's drawing are fallacious.
i'm calling him out.
if the history of this thread is any indication (or on phatmass generally, really), he's too much of a coward andor will get his panties in a bunch andor lacks the mental capacity, though, to respond rationally to the challenge.

Edited July 20, 2008 by dairygirl4u2c

[ironmonk]

[quote name='fidei defensor' post='1604056' date='Jul 20 2008, 03:50 PM']Well obviously you, the non-scientist, know much more about this than the people who actually study it. How silly of us to question you.[/quote]

You fail to realize that what we do for a living is not exactly qualify us for the title.

Being a scientist is a mindset, not just a job. There are many who have jobs as scientists who are not of the mindset. A real scientist is open minded and when the facts present themselves to show that their theory is wrong then they change their theory to match the given facts, not bury the facts as the MMGW's have to. Learn about a little spark in the sky called the sun.

Most of the people in the IPCC do not study it, they parot what others claim. Obviously you haven't studied it much or you would know this.

By the grace of God I have been given a few gifts... When I was 12 I spent my spare time reading Scripture, praying for wisdom, the entire 23 volumn set of Encyclopedia Britannica, other books on science and anything else educational that interested me... God blessed me with a correct understanding of Scripture as my parents never took me to Mass.... If you want to talk degree's then I am a computer scientist... before I became a computer scientist, I wanted to be a psychiatrist, I double majored in psychology and chemistry, I have read many books on both subjects, and then some... I am very logical... My IQ is 147.... I have studied it, and global warming is still a hoax. But you're in luck, you don't need a 147 IQ to do the research, you don't need to read dozens of books to see that the MMGW data does not add up. I am a scientist, a theologian, a philosopher, and a statesman. How silly to question me? LOL not quite... How silly of you NOT to question them and take whatever they say as scripture.

If you actually studied it and paid attention you'd see that many of the members of American Physical Society (about 50,000 people who have jobs as scientists) say that MMGW is wrong and up for debate.

Here is a collection of links to get some data... [url="http://schnittshow.newsradio610.com/globalwarming.html"]http://schnittshow.newsradio610.com/globalwarming.html[/url]
The most recent links are at the bottom.



God Bless and I'm still right,
ironmonk

[XIX]

Edited July 21, 2008 by XIX

[dairygirl4u2c]

"Why would people so woefully lacking in the basic facts of an issue think they [are] the best informed? Social scientists call the phenomenon 'pseudo-certainty.' I call it 'being a f*cking moron.'" --Al Franken, from Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

[quote]
[quote]i've never seen any sources cited for the volcano theory, but here's what i can find pointing that the volcano thing is a myth:
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The volcano theorists can't even keep their stories straight. In his book, Limbaugh claims that the 1991 Pinatubo eruption put 1000 times as much chlorine into the atmosphere as industry has ever produced through CFCs; yet on Nightline, Pinatubo is alleged to have produced 570 times the equivalent of one year's worth of CFCs. Both can't be right. It turns out neither are.

The figure 570 apparently derives from Ray's book--but she said it was Mount Augustine, an Alaskan volcano that erupted in 1976, that put out 570 times as much chlorine as one year's worth of CFCs. Ray's source is a 1980 Science magazine article--but that piece was actually talking about the chlorine produced by a gigantic eruption that occurred 700,000 years ago in California (Science, 6/11/93).
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i'd also add, that hte common sense answer to me is... consider all the smoke stacks out there. consider all the pollution, places like LA. i'd bet california itself is like a volcano very short period in intervals. doesn't this make the most sense, considering how little and how infrequent volcanoes erupt?
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scientific article saying the sun is only accounting for a third of our warming
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With respect to global warming, though solar activity has been at relatively high levels during the recent period, the fact that solar activity has been near constant during the last 30 years precludes solar variability from playing a large role in recent warming. It is estimated that the residual effects of the prolonged high solar activity account for between 18 and 36% of warming from 1950 to 1999
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It is found that current climate models underestimate the observed climate response to solar forcing over the
twentieth century as a whole, indicating that the climate system has a greater sensitivity to solar forcing than
do models. The results from this research show that increases in solar irradiance are likely to have had a greater
influence on global-mean temperatures in the first half of the twentieth century than the combined effects of
changes in anthropogenic forcings. Nevertheless the results confirm previous analyses showing that greenhouse
gas increases explain most of the global warming observed in the second half of the twentieth century.

^ Stott, Peter A.; Gareth S. Jones and John F. B. Mitchell (15 December 2003). "Do Models Underestimate the Solar Contribution to Recent Climate Change". Journal of Climate 16: 4079-4093. Retrieved on October 5, 2005.[/quote][/quote]

Edited March 14, 2011 by dairygirl4u2c

[Laudate_Dominum]

Global warming is an inside job.

[Lil'Monster]

Global warming is just another way for government to control u. and whatever happened to Global Cooling and Acid Rain? they told us we would be dead but um we are still here! hahahahaha

they just want to freak people out and they want to control them in many different ways!

Real Scientists know that Global Warming is nothing but a flat out lie!

[cmotherofpirl]

Global Warming is a fallacy, but Climate Change is not, beccause God did not create a static world.

[Laudate_Dominum]

Believe... The truth is out there.

[IMG]http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h119/NoonienSoong_2006/phatmass/believe.jpg[/IMG]

[sixpence]

oh my....

Climate Change is accepted by the majority of scientist who bother to look into it... there are piles of evidence, including changes in plant phenology and insect emergence. And it appears to be occurring at a rate that is faster than one would predict from natural heating/cooling events...

Please, please don't get your science from Glenn Beck

[AudreyGrace]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1300143511' post='2220740']
oh my....

Climate Change is accepted by the majority of scientist who bother to look into it... there are piles of evidence, including changes in plant phenology and insect emergence. And it appears to be occurring at a rate that is faster than one would predict from natural heating/cooling events...

Please, please don't get your science from Glenn Beck
[/quote]


all of this.
it's Climate Change, and completely natural. While us humans can (and definitely should) make efforts to lessen our impact on the Earth where we've had a negative effect, a lot of it isn't up to us or because of us, which is what a lot of ultra tree-hugging superfreaks need to realize. (i'm saying this as a tree-hugger... i just don't go CRAZY).

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1300143511' post='2220740']
oh my....

Climate Change is accepted by the majority of scientist who bother to look into it... there are piles of evidence, including changes in plant phenology and insect emergence. And it appears to be occurring at a rate that is faster than one would predict from natural heating/cooling events...

Please, please don't get your science from Glenn Beck
[/quote]
They're in the pocket of Al Gore and the leftists. That entire community of scientists are perpetrating fraud in order to further the socialist population control agenda. Do your research.

BELIEVE.



The truth is out there.

[sixpence]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' timestamp='1300146994' post='2220753']
They're in the pocket of Al Gore and the leftists. That entire community of scientists are perpetrating fraud in order to further the socialist population control agenda. Do your research.

BELIEVE.



The truth is out there.
[/quote]

I am going to choose to believe this is sarcasm LD.

[sixpence]

[quote name='AudreyGrace' timestamp='1300145007' post='2220743']
all of this.
it's Climate Change, and completely natural. While us humans can (and definitely should) make efforts to lessen our impact on the Earth where we've had a negative effect, a lot of it isn't up to us or because of us, which is what a lot of ultra tree-hugging superfreaks need to realize. (i'm saying this as a tree-hugger... i just don't go CRAZY).
[/quote]

yes, its no good to be an alarmist about it

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1300150197' post='2220768']
I am going to choose to believe this is sarcasm LD.
[/quote]
Just teasin.

[dairygirl4u2c]

here is a quick synopsis:
-sun activity i've cited a study for, only accounts for a third of the warmth, at most.
-volcanoes theories ive shown have no basis in anything. the myths are traced back to a volcano that erupted 700k years ago. nothing is ever cited as authoritative that they actually do more harm than humans, other than nonsensical gut speak. seriously, a single state probably puts out as much as a volcano does. and ironmonk said thrity volcanoes go off a year. we have fifty states most of which probably do at least as much damage. not to mention other countries. to cite thirty volcanoes or volcanoes in general, without nothing more cited or reasoned, is simply idiotic.
-they showed that a few hundred parts per billion can increase temperature. humans before cars, with agriculture, did this. now we're at parts per *million* and the parts are shown by isotopes to be from recent human activity.
-temperature started going up exponentially around the seventies. this era is known as the environmental era, given people started developing so much. even if we were generally going up before, that it would be triggered at the exact same time, is too much to say it's just a coincidence. maybe, but it's not good judgment to say so.
-ice cores in antarctica started getting blacker during the industrial revolution, and lighter the same yuear the clean air act was implemented.
-they show that CO2 does in fact increase temperature.
-if we know it increases temperature, and all the theories for why we're warmer other than humans doesn't add up... dsen't it makes sense to at least suspect that it might be cause of humans?

people just say it's not because of humans and because of some vague cycle, without addressing facts. don't let facts get in the way. truthiness gut speak all the way. even if global warming by humans turned out to be false, to say global warming is a hoax, is idiotic

Edited March 15, 2011 by dairygirl4u2c