geetarplayer Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Christians oppose possible veil ban in France Jews oppose possible veil ban in France Muslims oppose possible veil ban in France -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 They are going to pick apart everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTNgurl Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 this really is sad...what has the world come to? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTNgurl Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 (edited) copy Edited December 14, 2003 by LTNgurl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin D Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 this really is sad...what has the world come to? It's become utterly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 if they can make islamic women show their bare faces against their will, they'll shortly try to make catholic women show their bare...society's gettin there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted December 14, 2003 Author Share Posted December 14, 2003 A disturbingthought, hyperdulia, but it's probably true. But then, there was a similar situation like this in Florida where a Muslim woman would not take off her face veil to take her driver's license picture. I think they eventually said, "If you want to get a driver's license, you have to take off your face veil." The point was brought up on CNN that if this ban goes through, Muslim women in France might be attacked because they are not wearing their veils. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 I think its silly to have a driver's license picture of an obscuring veil. Really great for identification. THat is certainly not the same as wearing a head scarf in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 "A committee of French experts on Thursday recommended a ban on Islamic headscarves and Jewish skullcaps in schools in order to reaffirm the country's secular identity, which they warned is in danger of being eroded."" ( emphasis mine) THis sounds like something that would thrill the ACLU here. God forbid anybody be allowed to be differnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 the driver's license is a licernse proving that one can drive, not a national i.d. card which would be unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 the driver's license is a licernse proving that one can drive, not a national i.d. card which would be unconstitutional. Here in California it is an ID card as well,since it must be used for identifacation to cash checks and use credit cards, basicaly if they cant tell its you in the picture, no services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muschi Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 AAAARRGGGHHHHH!!!!! !!!!! I am SOOO SICK of those who would shove "secularism" down people's throats!!! The Muslim women have a right to follow their conscience just as I hope I would be allowed to do the same as a Christian. However, for ID purposes, yeah, this is one time where the veil MUST be removed for ID purposes only. I almost wonder if these women can't be accomodated with a photo showing them with and without the veil? As someone else said, here in California, most of the time, your driver's license IS your ID. I don't know, but I really get ticked off when a legitimate form of religious expression is denied by those who would make us all to be nothing more than automatons! It's communism in disguise in my opinion! - Muschi :sadder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 That's right! They're slowly amending the right to freedom of religion! -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foundsheep Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Heres a weird thought that popped in my head, Lets say my mom is muslim and wears a veil. She takes a Id picture with her veil on. Lets say Im a vicious crackhead son about the same size as she is. I take and dress in her clothes and the veil and commence using her credit cards and checks. Just a thought. :rolling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetarplayer Posted December 15, 2003 Author Share Posted December 15, 2003 Okay, okay, I understand that it's not quite the same situation. But still, there's no need for the ban on veils in French schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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