thessalonian Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Church in new york must provide contraceptives. [url="http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=18304"]http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=18304[/url] Wonder what they are doing in California about a similar law that this article says is being upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Don't do it anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezic Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 that is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 That smells of elderberries. I want to say that they should just not do it, but then they may not be able to afford the fines and lawsuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 [quote name='prose' date='Jan 16 2006, 10:13 AM']That smells of elderberries. I want to say that they should just not do it, but then they may not be able to afford the fines and lawsuits. [right][snapback]857637[/snapback][/right] [/quote] No amount of money is worth succumbing to the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowak.chris Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Indeed, we have a duty not to obey an unjust law, paritcularly one that would be sinful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 I must also say the Church needs to stand unified here and support them in their fight against this, perhaps defraying some of the cost among Catholics throughtout the country. We are the body of Christ, not the bodies of Christ. This must be fought NOW tooth and nail. There are 48 states left to enact such laws. As each state does the sledding gets tougher. CHARGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) Also did you catch this? This is why it must be opposed with every fiber of who we are. "The statement from Richard E. Barnes, executive director of the organization that represents the state's bishops in public policy matters, said the plaintiffs believe supporters of the contraceptive legislation hope to expand the mandate to require coverage for [b]abortion[/b]." Spiritual battles require fortitude. Edited January 16, 2006 by thessalonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Wow. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 You have got to be kidding me! Why in heaven's name is contraceptive and abortion consider medical benefits in the first flippin' place?!?!? Care to tell me from what medical illness people suffer when using these methods? What is it called; horniculosis? How about pregmatosis-of-the-lower-abdomen? Both considtion make the person do things that are completely out of their own control and should be cared for buy the proper medical procedures including condoms and abortions. SFD!!! I can barely refrain myself!!! SFFD!!! God help me! God help us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morostheos Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 So what are Church entities in these two states currently doing? What can we do to encourage them not to follow the law if they currently are following it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Who says they should fight a lawsuit? The Church is not under the State. That is not to say that they should not obey just laws, such as filling out paperwork to be non-profit, fine and all, but there is no sense in them paying a dime to fight a lawsuit. They just don't respond at all. What are they going to do, force Churches out of NY? Fine. That will look really good on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyluis Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 No WAY!!! Ah man i live in England, i'm praying and will b gettin as many ppl to pray too, this is sooo bad God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 [quote name='morostheos' date='Jan 16 2006, 10:47 AM']So what are Church entities in these two states currently doing? What can we do to encourage them not to follow the law if they currently are following it? [right][snapback]857684[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Couple more articles: [url="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/012/1.17.html"]http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/012/1.17.html[/url] [quote]In the wake of Catholic Charities of Sacramento, Inc., v. California, et al., church officials in Sacramento are weighing their options. They may fold some operations back into the diocese to strengthen their connection with the church.[/quote] I'll see if I can find what became of this. [url="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/102/53.0.html"]http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/102/53.0.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paphnutius Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Jan 16 2006, 10:53 AM']Who says they should fight a lawsuit? The Church is not under the State. That is not to say that they should not obey just laws, such as filling out paperwork to be non-profit, fine and all, but there is no sense in them paying a dime to fight a lawsuit. They just don't respond at all. What are they going to do, force Churches out of NY? Fine. That will look really good on TV. [right][snapback]857690[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You are correct, we are not bound by an unjust law, or a non law, but if we choose not to follow such we must be ready pay for it. Suffering is a part of persecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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