Jaime Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 [quote name='Socrates' date='Jan 6 2006, 07:31 PM']These charts and such really clearly show nothing. The economy is complex, and for themost part is outside the control of the president or any other single person. (and as noted, the trends toward more poverty in Republican administrations began while Dems were still in charge.) The whole blaming (or crediting) the state of the economy on who's in office is the fallacy of post hoc, ad proctor hoc. It's convenient for playing politics, but factually unsubstantiated. All the economic trends shown have factors in play which have nothing to do with the President and are outside his control. And what about those periods such as the '80s, with a Republican President and a Democratic Congress, or the '90s, with a Democratic President and a Republican Congress? [right][snapback]848351[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Of course economics are complex. Yes congress is involved and there are variables that are outside of any one person's control. But the buck stops with the leader. Sometimes it works for you. Sometimes it doesn't. Bush Sr lost his reelection because of the economy. He was left with the bill that Reagan accrued in deficit spending and it sent us into a recession. Clinton was reelected because of the economy and how it turned around. Bush Jr has taken a surplus and turned it into the largest deficit ever. It is certainly a large factor in the fact that the poverty rate has grown every year he's been in power. The reality is that presidential policies have a significant effect on the economy. And I don't believe that either of you believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 [quote name='hot stuff' date='Jan 7 2006, 10:49 AM']And I don't believe that either of you believe otherwise. [right][snapback]848687[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Oui, just answering the question from last page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwergel88 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 In my opinion,democrats usually are more focused on the poor, and they certainly faired better in the last administration. Tax cuts for the rich are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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