musturde Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Jan 2 2006, 12:10 PM']... and that attuide is the reason why Hollywood gets away with such productions. The film will be popular, but that still does not make it "right" to support this movie. The Vatican itself condemned the Da Vinci Code. Why should we, as devout Catholics, support such garbage? I clearly understand what you're saying, but I still cannot see how that justifies Catholics to support it. Boycotts do work, but we need each person to add to the number to make an effective stand. Just look at what the Catholic League and the American Family Association did, because of their boycotts and media pressure, many retailers are now using "Merry Christmas" and/or will be using it next year. [right][snapback]843375[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yes but I doubt a boycott will work on such a popular movie based on such a popular book. If it did, the book would have been boycotted. The boycotts only make people want to see it more. It also gives the illusion that the Church is "hiding something" when we do this. It'd be better just to go in the movie with a supply of free candy and a copy of the Hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I am going to see it, and take it for wath it is, a FICTION. Its a good plot, and it was the Davinci code that gott me interested in the Catholic church, all publicity is good publicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 [quote name='viking' date='Jan 3 2006, 08:04 AM']I am going to see it, and take it for wath it is, a FICTION. Its a good plot, and it was the Davinci code that gott me interested in the Catholic church, all publicity is good publicity [right][snapback]844354[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Brown is helping people go into the Church without even knowing it. If people become very educated with countering it, it could bring people into the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy777 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 For those of you who are really concerned about the movie...just read this and don't let the movie influence your beliefs. [i][b]Why should a Catholic be concerned about the novel?[/b][/i] Although a work of fiction, the book claims to be meticulously researched, and it goes to great lengths to convey the impression that it is based on fact. It even has a "fact" page at the front of the book underscoring the claim of factuality for particular ideas within the book. As a result, many readers-both Catholic and non-Catholic-are taking the book's ideas seriously. The problem is that many of the ideas that the book promotes are anything but fact, and they go directly to the heart of the Catholic faith. For example, the book promotes these ideas: * Jesus is not God; he was only a man. * Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. * She is to be worshiped as a goddess. * Jesus got her pregnant, and the two had a daughter. * That daughter gave rise to a prominent family line that is still present in Europe today. * The Bible was put together by a pagan Roman emperor. * Jesus was viewed as a man and not as God until the fourth century, when he was deified by the emperor Constantine. * The Gospels have been edited to support the claims of later Christians. * In the original Gospels, Mary Magdalene rather than Peter was directed to establish the Church. * There is a secret society known as the Priory of Sion that still worships Mary Magdalene as a goddess and is trying to keep the truth alive. * The Catholic Church is aware of all this and has been fighting for centuries to keep it suppressed. It often has committed murder to do so. * The Catholic Church is willing to and often has assassinated the descendents of Christ to keep his bloodline from growing. Catholics should be concerned about the book because it not only misrepresents their Church as a murderous institution but also implies that the Christian faith itself is utterly false. [url="http://www.catholic.com/library/cracking_da_vinci_code.asp"]Source[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tata126 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I haven't read the Da Vinci Code, but it really frightens me. Fiction or not, most of us aren't historians, and won't be able to tell where fact becomes fiction. Especially frightening is the fact that there is corruption in the history of our Church, and we can't deny it, but I for one don't know enough about it to draw the line at which corruptions happened and which didn't. Perhaps many people can still read it and not have their faith shaken; perhaps many people have stronger faith than I do and don't worry about reading or watching things that might weaken their faith. I would read it or watched the movie if a priest I trusted recommended that I ought to and was willing to discuss it with me, but otherwise I can't bring myself to read it because I know I don't know my Church history and theology backwards and forwards. Not only that, but I have to agree with all the sentiments expressed about people without faith being misled by it. I have a rather areligious friend who thinks I'm some sort of a spawn of Satan because I'm somewhat involved in Opus Dei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tata126 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Hmm...dandy's comment wasn't up when I started typing mine, so now I'd like to clarify that I do know enough about the Church not to think any of the things on her list. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Musturde.....how do you think Brown is getting people to go to Church, if he say's the Church is a fraud, and corrupt. Let's use your logic, let's just give Hollywood our wallets, pat them on the back for making such a big positive impact on the Church. We already have so much positive input from the media and movies, I'm sure the confused Catholic/Christian population will be coming in droves to Church, afterall it's just a hobby. Here's my take, let's as lay people say "we're not going to support a movie that's a blatant attack on Christianity>" Let's not get crazy, and protest outside theatres or anything. Let's just do a simple protest with our pocketbooks......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeds Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'll be going to see it. I'm not an apologist, but it's so easy to refute any "heretical" elements of the book - the Priory of Sion was a hoax, made up by a Frenchman called Pierre Plantard in order to prove that he was related to past kings of France and the rest was lifted straight from an 80s book called "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", which has been rubbished by historians. To me, it's a good story, nothing more (although Dan Brown's writing style is TERRIBLE.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vatican Ninja Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 (edited) yo vatican ninja not coo with Vinci code. big problem in france yo. Edited January 4, 2006 by Vatican Ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 [quote name='ironman' date='Jan 3 2006, 06:28 PM']Musturde.....how do you think Brown is getting people to go to Church, if he say's the Church is a fraud, and corrupt. Let's use your logic, let's just give Hollywood our wallets, pat them on the back for making such a big positive impact on the Church. We already have so much positive input from the media and movies, I'm sure the confused Catholic/Christian population will be coming in droves to Church, afterall it's just a hobby. Here's my take, let's as lay people say "we're not going to support a movie that's a blatant attack on Christianity>" Let's not get crazy, and protest outside theatres or anything. Let's just do a simple protest with our pocketbooks......... [right][snapback]844923[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I was quoting the person who said that The Da Vinci Code led him to the Church. Also if people question the Church and get all excited about it being evil, they're getting excited about it. It's intriguing. Even more when they find out that Dan Brown is lying. If Catholics are trained well enough to counter the arguements, then the people might even be interested in the Church or just learn a lot more about it that they would have even cared to learn had they not read it. Also if Church's boycott it, just like the Passion of the Christ(and Jews going crazy over it for ridiculous reasons), it'll become a huge deal. Trust me, every widespread attempt boycott this movie or speak out against it will be heard publicly. The more controversy this movie seems to have, the more people will want to see it. If Dan Brown wants to make money off of this, let him. The more people acquint themselves with the movie and how to counter it, the more he will look like a frod. This would mean that his credibility would die out for the rest of his career. If you boycott this film, he'll still make books and people will still read and believe them. A simple boycott would be fine for people who are afraid of not being able to tell whether this certain part of the book is true or not but for the rest, it's just another persons view (although twisted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aalpha1989 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I wouldnt enjoy watching it even knowing that it is fiction.....it would make me mad to see it and all the false things it says about the Church....so i dont see a reason to see it other than to know what it says and be able to counter people's arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironman Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm not saying make a fuss about it, fellow Catholics like you and I, should just say we're not going to support a fraud. He''s a fraud and good Catholics like you and I, shouldn't make him or Tom Hanks any richer for degrading our Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musturde Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 [quote name='ironman' date='Jan 3 2006, 09:06 PM']I'm not saying make a fuss about it, fellow Catholics like you and I, should just say we're not going to support a fraud. He''s a fraud and good Catholics like you and I, shouldn't make him or Tom Hanks any richer for degrading our Church. [right][snapback]845134[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think it's just sparking interest to our Church more than degrading it. Let him say what he wants in his book and movie, i'm very sure we're gunna get the better half in the end so that it will be forever dubbed "completely fiction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melporcristo Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 i definately not called to see the movie. it just makes me too sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ave Maria Totus Tuus Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 [quote name='melporcristo' date='Jan 3 2006, 11:58 PM']i definately not called to see the movie. it just makes me too sad [right][snapback]845285[/snapback][/right] [/quote] yeah same. my dad thinks its really interesting. i always remind him that it's a big lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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