Christendom vs. FUS

[qfnol31]

And my school's still not mentioned.

[phatcatholic]

i hear the University of Dallas is pretty dope

[qfnol31]

Woohoo! :

[Brother Adam]

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However...with FUS' administration making really poor choices over the past few years and student life going downhill, I'd have to recommend Christendom over Steubenville. I loved the education I received and the people I met, but it's to the point where they are more interested in money than the academics.
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I'd have to disagree with the more interested in money thing...

[Fides_et_Ratio]

Neither of you have gotten their once a month "donate to Franciscan" letters yet....

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Dec 29 2005, 08:37 AM']Neither of you have gotten their once a month "donate to Franciscan" letters yet....
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Yes, I do get them. But they have to support themselves, and they offer alot of non-loan financial aid when it comes right down to it. And if you want to compare to Ohio Universities and their need for money, walk around Franciscan and then walk around Cedarville. They have the same number of students.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

My tuition was enough for FUS to support itself! I didn't get any financial aid.

And those letters are annoying. I'm not going to donate money to a college--any college. Tuition is high enough. If they'd stop wasting money on re-doing things that aren't in need of being re-done, they'd be fine.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Dec 29 2005, 08:46 AM']My tuition was enough for FUS to support itself! I didn't get any financial aid.

And those letters are annoying. I'm not going to donate money to a college--any college. Tuition is high enough. If they'd stop wasting money on re-doing things that aren't in need of being re-done, they'd be fine.
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Then call and ask to be taken off the list. Every school has benefactors. That doesn't make the school greedy.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

I never said FUS was greedy.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Dec 29 2005, 08:49 AM']I never said FUS was greedy.
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You said "Neither of you have gotten their once a month "donate to Franciscan" letters yet.... "

I assumed that was in response to my response about Franciscan being more interested in money than academics.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

They can be more interested in money than academics without being "greedy". FUS won't do everything for money. But they DO ask for it all the time.

FUS has some pretty cruddy teachers in some departments, but they are more concerned about the JC, or sports (at least last year--not sure if that issue was resolved) than they are about fixing their teaching staff.

[jgirl]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 29 2005, 12:17 AM']what exactly are you referring to here? what makes you think FUS is more interested in money than academics?
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They underpay the professors, and then mistreat some of the better ones who aren't Scott Hahn. My favorite professor is looking into a civil rights lawsuit because they failed to promote him to full professor on two occasions when he was qualified for the promotion (not to mention the university said nasty things to him and about his teaching style when they never once stepped foot inside his classroom). Professors often joked that the friars on campus take the vow of poverty and the profs live it. It's probably fair to say that a lot of them who have kids live below the poverty level.

This comes at the same time that the university is adding Division III. It doesn't have the money to buy books for the library when that money is in the budget or pay the professors decent salaries, but it has money to develop a full scale intercollegiate athletic program.

There was another situation where the administration offered to create a job on the main campus just for the Austrian Director of Student Life, so that they could move back to the states. The university created the job, but then they filled it with somebody else (Schmiesing), basically leaving the other guy on the street. Good thing that the Lord is good because after 6 months, he finally found a job that provided a house, somebody donated a van to them, and the family could be reunited (the wife and kids lived with her parents in Seattle and he lived with his in Minnesota).

They also mishandle money on a regular basis. When they get general grant money, they don't put it into a fund for scholarships or use it to boost the salaries of the professors; they buy buildings to boost the amount of students they can hold without boosting the numbers of professors that can teach them, so class sizes are going up (although still not up to the level of most public universities). They are doing the same thing by converting existing dorm rooms into triples. The only dorm that's big enough to hold triples is Kolbe-Clare. They aren't temporary, and they only give the students who live in them a tiny discount, meaning that they are making a fair amount of money off the triples.

The stories go on and on...

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Dec 29 2005, 08:58 AM']They can be more interested in money than academics without being "greedy". FUS won't do everything for money. But they DO ask for it all the time.

FUS has some pretty cruddy teachers in some departments, but they are more concerned about the JC, or sports (at least last year--not sure if that issue was resolved) than they are about fixing their teaching staff.
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I'm not sure how you can know their intentions. I work next to executive staff, and I don't understand that to be their intentions, and some departments are going through the hiring process right now...What departments are you refering too?

[homeschoolmom]

All schools, public and private, send out requests for money. That's not unique to FUS.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Dec 29 2005, 10:00 AM']I'm not sure how you can know their intentions. I work next to executive staff, and I don't understand that to be their intentions, and some departments are going through the hiring process right now...What departments are you refering too?
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see jgirl's post... she pays better attention than I did on campus.

history... prof. fitzgerald is NOT a teacher.

need I mention a certain theology class where we watched Antonio Banderas play a "catholic" priest who leaves the priesthood to "worship God in his own, personal way" in a movie where they supposedly find the Body of Jesus and how the Vatican is portrayed as working with terroists, etc. to cover it up?

and there are other departments. ask around.