Earthsea Annie Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 [quote name='Iacobus' date='Dec 13 2005, 06:35 PM']I wish the RIAA would notice the new data coming out that says the people that they are chasing down for copywrite problems are the ones buying their music at a higher rate then before they started downloading. [right][snapback]824175[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't think that matters when it comes to infringement. If you steal something and then later buy lots of it, the fact remains that you initially stole it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bx_racer Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 [quote name='Earthsea Annie' date='Dec 14 2005, 01:09 PM']I don't think that matters when it comes to infringement. If you steal something and then later buy lots of it, the fact remains that you initially stole it. [right][snapback]825507[/snapback][/right] [/quote] i dont download because of all the moral controversy but i read somewhere the artist isnt hurt that much, because most of their money comes from tours and other merchandise. its more the label. i think its pretty stupid and people should be allowed to do it. that way more people actually hear the music and the labels arent so greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrvoll Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 [quote name='Sojourner' date='Dec 13 2005, 09:06 AM'] The judge rejected that argument, saying that copyight holders themselves may want to offer sampling services, which could be a valuable (read: they could charge for it) service. [right][snapback]823207[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That is just plain studip. If the music indrusty choose to do it, I will record songs form the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifescanticle Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 The judge got this one correct. I believe that it is improper to download music without paying for it. It is no different than my providing a service in my profession and the individual walking out with paying for my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTrishaxLynnx Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Bringing back an old thread... I have a slight issue here. It's not illegal to record things from the radio, is it? (i'm really not 100% sure...) If it isn't, why would it be such a bad thing to download those songs that you can already hear for free? And I know most of the time an artist's entire album is not played on the radio, only a song or two to hook you so you buy the album.. but if they offered a couple of songs (the radio played songs) for free, then you had the option to buy and download the album online, how would the artists OR labels be losing money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 iTunes should develop a new feature so that you could listen to the whole album before you buy. Maybe pay 1 or 2 bucks to hear it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTrishaxLynnx Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Era Might' post='1100827' date='Oct 25 2006, 11:59 AM'] iTunes should develop a new feature so that you could listen to the whole album before you buy. Maybe pay 1 or 2 bucks to hear it once. [/quote] Doesn't sound like a bad idea. That way, people wouldn't be so skeptical and afraid of spending about $15 to wind up only liking one or two songs. I also think that if you do decide to buy it, and they offered to take the money you spent on previewing it off the regular price, they'd have a pretty good system there. Edited October 25, 2006 by xTrishaxLynnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote name='bx_racer' post='830935' date='Dec 19 2005, 07:04 PM'] i dont download because of all the moral controversy but [b]i read somewhere the artist isnt hurt that much, because most of their money comes from tours and other merchandise.[/b] its more the label. i think its pretty stupid and people should be allowed to do it. that way more people actually hear the music and the labels arent so greedy. [/quote] Moot point. Gas stations get most of thier money from the beer, soda, and candy bought within--not from the gas. By this logic, it shouldn't be illegal to steal gas. That way people acutally get to use the gas and the gas stations aren't so greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farsight one Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I always thought that it was strange that in the beginning, the artists' defense against downloading music was that their record sales were dropping. They were dropping, in the United states, but pay attention to the big picture, and you'd notice that their overall sales were going up. Anything for a buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 [quote name='Farsight one' post='1101011' date='Oct 25 2006, 02:47 PM'] I always thought that it was strange that in the beginning, the artists' defense against downloading music was that their record sales were dropping. They were dropping, in the United states, but pay attention to the big picture, and you'd notice that their overall sales were going up. Anything for a buck. [/quote] I always thought it was strange that all these people who would never think about stealing a CD from a store, stole hundreds of songs from the artists and record companies. Anything to save a buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardillacid Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 [quote name='Carrie' post='823802' date='Dec 13 2005, 04:40 PM'] It's all Metallica's fault. [/quote] :applause: [quote name='Carrie' post='824887' date='Dec 14 2005, 11:43 AM'] (as if anyone was buying metallica's music after they cut their hair and starting putting out bad albums). [/quote] :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissScripture Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 [quote name='T-Bone' post='1101077' date='Oct 25 2006, 05:50 PM'] I always thought it was strange that all these people who would never think about stealing a CD from a store, stole hundreds of songs from the artists and record companies. Anything to save a buck. [/quote] I find it strange that people who think nothing of downloading music get upset when things they've made (programs, pictures, etc.) are copied and used. Funny how laws are so stupid until they protect you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goetian Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 (edited) Please explain to me how the heck you're supposed to find music and know you want to buy it if you can't hear it first. 30 seconds might cut it if the song is <3 minutes or so, but if it's >10 you can forget it. Edited October 29, 2006 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1100826' date='Oct 25 2006, 11:57 AM'] Bringing back an old thread... I have a slight issue here. It's not illegal to record things from the radio, is it? (i'm really not 100% sure...) If it isn't, why would it be such a bad thing to download those songs that you can already hear for free? And I know most of the time an artist's entire album is not played on the radio, only a song or two to hook you so you buy the album.. but if they offered a couple of songs (the radio played songs) for free, then you had the option to buy and download the album online, how would the artists OR labels be losing money? [/quote] I see no difference between recording from the radio or recording from my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='Goetian' post='1104193' date='Oct 29 2006, 03:51 PM'] Please explain to me how the hell you're supposed to find music and know you want to buy it if you can't hear it first. 30 seconds might cut it if the song is <3 minutes or so, but if it's >10 you can forget it. [/quote] Please explain to me the difference between a 3 minute song, and a ten minute one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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