Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 why have the last couple of popes refused to take the Papal Oath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Dec 9 2005, 08:55 AM']why have the last couple of popes refused to take the Papal Oath? [right][snapback]818093[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't know that they have. Evidence? Where is the evidence that this oath is required also or that all Popes before Paul VI took it? Edited December 9, 2005 by thessalonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 The oath is not a requirement, and there was " no refusal". The rites of election etc were streamlined and it was dropped. No big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 its not but it has been taken by all popes since well before the middle ages. i just think its weird they no longer take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 They don't wear the triple tiara either. They are not essentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thessalonian Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Looking online this is just another one of those issues that is exploited by those who want to separate the flock from the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church, using deceptive means to create a mountain out of a mole hill. "GASP! They refused to take the Papal Oath. They must be hiding something". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Yeah, and the people who would do that have hardly taken a papal oath, if you know what I mean. I'll take the Vicar of Christ over dissenters any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 You realize no one here's answered, just jumped on the question, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Dec 9 2005, 01:37 PM']You realize no one here's answered, just jumped on the question, right? [right][snapback]818626[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that's what we do best. don't diss it. and I thought cmom answered it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Eh, not really. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_coronation"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_coronation[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara[/url] Seems there might actually be some confusion in why they didn't get crowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Dec 9 2005, 01:45 PM']Eh, not really. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_coronation"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_coronation[/url] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Tiara[/url] Seems there might actually be some confusion in why they didn't get crowned. [right][snapback]818638[/snapback][/right] [/quote] oh cool. btw, your signature rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Dec 9 2005, 01:46 PM']oh cool. btw, your signature rocks. [right][snapback]818643[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Thanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Lastnight I was hanging out with some people (a couple of profs at FUS and stuff) and I realized that I hold to a radical view regarding Church and state. We should debate that stuff some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I bet if you start a thread I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Dec 9 2005, 10:55 AM']why have the last couple of popes refused to take the Papal Oath? [right][snapback]818093[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Perhaps for the same reason we don't recite the Athanasian creed at Mass. A more fundamental oath is preferred. "Credo in unum deum..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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