The mark of the beast

[Sojourner]

People living in the Twin Cities can already [url="http://www.paybytouch.com/news/pr_05-16-05.html"]Pay By Touch[/url] at some Cub Foods stores.

[quote]The new technology, provided by Pay By Touch, is free to shoppers and will allow them to pay for their groceries with a finger scan that is linked to their financial accounts. [/quote]

[Jaime]

[quote name='Sojourner' date='Dec 7 2005, 10:52 AM']People living in the Twin Cities can already [url="http://www.paybytouch.com/news/pr_05-16-05.html"]Pay By Touch[/url] at some Cub Foods stores.
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But their heads also spin completely around and all they can purchase with it is spit pea soup

[Sojourner]

[quote name='hot stuff' date='Dec 7 2005, 09:57 AM']But their heads also spin completely around and all they can purchase with it is spit pea soup
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Those are definite drawbacks.

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my dads company had alot to do with that type of tech...carp..maybe I am the anti-christ..hmm

[Church Punk]

I think the key to all of this is to remember that it is not the technology that is the evil, it will be the government and people who persecute the Church that mandate this that will be the anti-Christs...

Keep your eyes open

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Sojourner' date='Dec 7 2005, 09:52 AM']People living in the Twin Cities can already [url="http://www.paybytouch.com/news/pr_05-16-05.html"]Pay By Touch[/url] at some Cub Foods stores.
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They keep pushing me to sign up for that... Uh, no thanks...

[rkwright]

I read this on Catholic.com, I'm not sure how close this mirrors offical teaching but it is a different way of viewing it all. It basically says the Beast, the Whore of Babylon, and a lot of revelation speak of events which were near to the writer John, but for us have already passed. Check it here...

[quote]What Daniel’s four beasts have in common is that they are all pagan kingdoms that persecuted and conquered God’s people, Israel. John’s beast is the same kind of thing—a conquering pagan empire. Since it comes after Daniel’s four beasts, Rome is the logical candidate. But it’s not a future, "restored Roman Empire." It’s the real thing, the pagan Roman Empire of the early centuries. This is confirmed by several lines of evidence.

First, the book of Revelation is explicit in stating that it concerns events that will happen "soon" (1:1, 2:16, 3:11, 22:6, 7, 12, 20). This indicates that the bulk of the events of the book (those that precede the Millennium of Rev. 20:1-10, in which we are now living) should take place shortly after the book was written, likely in the A.D. 60s.

Second, we are told that the number of the beast is 666 and that this is the number of a man’s name (13:18). Not coincidentally, the persecuting, pagan Roman Empire was headed in the A.D. 60s by Caesar Nero, whose name happened to add up to 666 in the Hebrew system of letters and numbers. (In Hebrew, "Caesar Nero" = "NRWN QSR" = N 50 + R 200 + W 6 + N 50 + Q 100 + S 60 + R 200 = 666; a variant spelling of the name, NRW QSR, adds up to 616, which some manuscripts have in place of 666).

Third, the seven heads of the beast are identified as seven mountains (17:9). Though this is not certain, these are likely the seven hills on which the city of Rome was built. (Vatican Hill, however, was not one of the seven; it is on the side of the Tiber River opposite the seven.)

Thus there is good evidence that the beast from the sea is the pagan Roman Empire of the first century and, in particular, the emperor at its head. This, again, is like Daniel’s four beasts, who were described both as four kings (Dan 7:17) and four kingdoms (cf. Dan. 7:23).

Further confirmation is found in Revelation speaking of the Jewish temple as if it were still operating (11:1), but soon to be trampled by the gentiles, along with the holy city (11:2). Shortly after Nero’s reign, the gentiles did indeed invade Jerusalem, trample it, and destroy the temple.

This suggests not only that the beast corresponded to the Roman empire in general and Caesar Nero in particular but also that the book of Revelation itself was written sometime in the early A.D. 60s, during Nero’s reign, just before the Jewish War that led to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in A.D. 70[/quote]


Read the whole thing here [url="http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1998/9812chap.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1998/9812chap.asp[/url]

And about the whore of Babylon here
[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/Whore_of_Babylon.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/Whore_of_Babylon.asp[/url]

[Socrates]

[quote name='Ziggamafu' date='Dec 6 2005, 07:06 PM']I think that it's possible that the mark of the beast will be some form of device / pill / injection (perhaps of nano-technology) that ends suffering and disease and grants immortality. What could be a more blatent choice of Hell than the desire to never see Heaven and choose earthly delights as your last end? What could be more anti-Christ than to deny the gifts of participation in the Passion of Christ? The most notable part of this theory is that it is possible...scientists are working on it as we speak.

...just an interesting thought I had today.
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This is just that - sci-fi.
Technology can never end suffering or death.

[Ziggamafu]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Dec 7 2005, 04:53 PM']This is just that - sci-fi.
Technology can never end suffering or death.
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So many diseases and disabilities have been destroyed by advanced technology...so many lifes have been prolonged. Now that we're developing nano-technology, it's just a matter of time. Nanites could act on behalf of the body in a much more efficient way than white blood cells. Inject millions of little robots into yourself and they wipe out any cancer or disease.

IT IS INEVITABLE

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hmm, I thought we were the whore of babylon? j/p...thats what Im told anyway when I reverted..i ws shocked that a christian would call another christian that Edited December 8, 2005 by Revprodeji