God?

[phatcatholic]

all of creation, and especially the miracles that occur in our lives, are proof of his existence

[bookofjohn]

Hi everybody

Let me give you guys this scenario:

A man was walking along the sidewalk and then he saw 12 coins scattered on the ground. Was it a coincidence the coins were there? ... most will answer, yes.

Well then, the next day... the man walks along the same sidewalk at the same hour and again he saw 12 coins on the ground, this time stacked neatly side by side, 6 on each side. Was it a coincidence or was it planned? :D I would say it was planned.

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Was it a coincidence that the earth was the third planet from the Sun? Not too hot for us and not too cold.

Was it a coincidence that plants supply us oxygen, in return they get carbon dioxide?

Was it a coincidence that our body can work so efficiently? Even the best technology now and most sophisticated machine cannot fully imitate one of the vital organs?

Was it a coincidence that the elements(Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen, etc..) in our body can also be found in the soil? If that was a coincidence, why don't we see humans sprouting from the ground?

And if someone would tell me that all these were to be a coincidence, I would ask: what are the chances that the organisms, elements, temperature, weather and other factors all complement each other?

I believe that all those above was never a coincidence because I know it was all planned.

The BIG question now is by who?

Well, I tell you that person is God.

[geetarplayer]

There wouldn't be anything if there wasn't Something (or Someone, as the case may be) to create it all. Don't tell me that EVERYTHING is just here, because that makes for an arbitrary and pointless existence.

"Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that, I'll be over here, looking through your stuff." --Jack Handy

Anywho, consider a leaf. Are you aware of the chemical composition of a leaf? Of the chemical reactions that take place every day? They are so complex that scientists can't even make one living leaf up from scratch themselves. So to say that the leaf came into existence "all by itself, coincidentally" is absurd.

How about the human body? Scientists have acknowledged it as the most complex and efficient machine the world has to offer. The brain! That organ alone is so complex that scientists are STILL trying to determine its intricate nature.

Life is full of power with structure. Did humans just kind of randomly become who they are today? From a bunch of tiny one-celled organisms? With no outside help? Please. I don't care to give us that much credit. So how can we say that all those rocks that we call planets just kind of randomly became what they are today? Rocks can't even think, let alone plan their own destinies. So the big question is this: Who put them into orbit?

-Mark

[the_rev]

Here are a few points in my opinion:

The people bearing the wounds of Christ, the stigmata, a sign from God telling I Got 2 Believe!

Secondly, Mirarcoulsly healings at Lourdes and fatima, I place where a super natural event occured, where healings from terminally ill people have attributed to their living!!

[track2004]

Out of the twenty listed by Cmother, I would have to say Pascals Wager is not technically proof, but in objectively deciding whether or not to believe that's the one I would go with. I'll give the senario that I am trying to convince an athiest that God does exist, and only that, you have to take into account both possibilities and then decide. Pascal's Wager (not ver batem) says that if there is a God I should believe in Him, and if there's no God I didn't lose anything because I believed.

I also really like the arguement of the religious sense. Every person wants some thing higher than themselves; they seek God. Whether they know it or not through out life people search for the purest and truest forms of love, beauty, truth, and justice. This search implies that there is something which is intrinsically perfect. We chose to call that something God because we know that this ultimate perfection is not here on Earth, and it has to be infinite.