PhillyMatt Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Just a observation and a question..... As I started to visit Catholic forums on the net, I've heard people mention that they experienced "anti-catholicism" and that it's quite rampant in some places. I'm fortunate to never have experienced this and am wondering where exactly people have these experiences. I've probably never experienced this partly due to where I live, pretty much everyone in the Philadelphia area has always been Catholic, hell, Catholic High School football has it's own section in the paper! Every where you look, there is another Catholic School! My 500 acre backyard used to be owned by the Catholic Church (they just sold it). Even in the wake of the Philly Sex abuse scandals, there's still no Anti-ism to be seen! Am I just living in a good area???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 YES YOU ARE!!!! LUCKY, I live in Nor Cal and Anti Catholicism is just all over.....it's sad man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyMatt Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 [quote name='Rick777' date='Nov 15 2005, 04:01 AM']YES YOU ARE!!!! LUCKY, I live in Nor Cal and Anti Catholicism is just all over.....it's sad man. [right][snapback]789812[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Really? Where? How? From who? Can you give some examples? It really angers me that this goes on! I've just never really seen it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 hm well heres a really good..it happened this past January in San Francisco...There was a Walk for Life in San Francisco and a lot of people showed up but so did a lot of pro choice men and women, and they came in thier groups or individually, just in droves, the whole march was really really tense. Police surrounded us as we walked down the streets and people were yelling,cursing,throwing stuff at us. We were stopped by a number of womens "rights" groups many of times. It was like a spiritual war. After the march everyone went thier own way and boy did the abortion advocates love that, we were getting yelled at and taunted it was crazy a lot of gay rights men and women were screaming at us drag queens. They are really passionate about thier views, like we should be about ours. EWTN came and it was on Life on the Rock. I talked to Fr. Francis for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Punk Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 I guess we are lucky down here in Windsor, ON. We had a silent protest on the main downtown street, which a good number of people from our church lined the street holding anti-abortion signs. He had nothing but support from the passer-bys. I think it could be that we are in Canada and people tend to keep their objections to thing to their selfs up here. The only resistance we faced was some strung out guy, wearing only his boxer shorts (no shoes) walking downtown, shouting blasphemies and mocking the sign of the cross (weird). I wondered if he was under demonic influeance. However when he realized that no one was listening to him, he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyMatt Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 Guys, neither one of those is Anti-catholicism. The people demonstrating against disagreed with your IDEAS not your religion. By ant-cath I mean something along the lines as, people spreading falsehoods about your beliefs or any mailicousnesss toward you because you are Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 (edited) Oh what Rick describe is really a horrible scene. However, I think that tension and anti-Catholic sentiments are not always showed that way but are also shown through various attacks especially from the media. For example, claiming discrimination against women becuase women can't become priests, or discrimination against gays because they have no right to get married in our Church or attacks against priests because of the sexual abuse scandals (which is really a shame!) and many more. However, these types of comments don't effect me that much. What really annoys me is that once I heard a Christian (non-Catholic) person claim that we adore God in a box referring to the Blessed Sacrament. Edited November 15, 2005 by dandy777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photosynthesis Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 [quote name='PhillyMatt' date='Nov 15 2005, 02:53 AM']Just a observation and a question..... As I started to visit Catholic forums on the net, I've heard people mention that they experienced "anti-catholicism" and that it's quite rampant in some places. I'm fortunate to never have experienced this and am wondering where exactly people have these experiences. I've probably never experienced this partly due to where I live, pretty much everyone in the Philadelphia area has always been Catholic, hell, Catholic High School football has it's own section in the paper! Every where you look, there is another Catholic School! My 500 acre backyard used to be owned by the Catholic Church (they just sold it). Even in the wake of the Philly Sex abuse scandals, there's still no Anti-ism to be seen! Am I just living in a good area???? [right][snapback]789808[/snapback][/right] [/quote] yeah, you're living in a good area. is your family catholic? a lot of times people think that anti-catholicism doesn't exist because it doesn't happen at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Most of the times Anti-Catholicism comes from rebellious Catholics and that is worse than any other sentiments coming from non-Catholics. I would excuse up to a certain extent thos non-Catholics who can't appreciate such things as the Papacy, celibacy, Virgin Mary, the Eucharist and Confession. However, it hurts when people express anti-Catholic sentiments when they too were once part of this family and/or still claim to be. However, I wish to ask some other quetion... why do people pass on such comments or judgements? Could it be that there are some wrongdoings in the church that are not being tackled well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandy777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 A very practical example that is causing a lot of turmoil among Catholics is Papa Ratzinger's decision to send people chacking out American seminaries to cleanse it from any gay seminarians. What is causing turmoil is associating the "gay" element in seminaries with the sexual abuse scandals that occurred in the past. I really love this pope and think that he is a great leader even though I am not as conservative as he is. However, I don't agree with this connection between homosexuality and pedophaelia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philothea Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Vocal anti-catholicism is pretty common in a lot of the online venues where people in my field hang out. I try to avoid the worst of these areas (it got really bad around the papal election.) I've tried to be more obviously Catholic, even so, and so far no one has said anything negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkwright Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 I've got 2 examples that I have personally experienced.... I belong to another board that discusses various Catholic issues, and I was privately emailed by one of the members telling me that I am in the wrong Catholic faith. That the Church has lost its faith and I am going to hell for it. This person ended up being either a member of the SSPX or someone who left it. The first set of emails were very heated from this person, calling every person 'in communion with Rome' a heretic. Secondly, I attend a school in Texas, and while it is a very conservative school there are many protestants here that are more than willing to tell you how wrong the Catholic faith is. Sometimes its done in a respective tone, sometimes it gets nasty. I was told by my roommate that Catholics are not Christians, or at least only a few are. I have been told that anyone who follows the Pope is out of their mind and will go to hell. Mostly though when asked what church I go to, I mention the only Catholic Church in the area and I do get nasty looks or 'ohhhhh the Catholic Church....'. Not to start in on stories about relatives, but my grandfather who was raised 2 hours from here was chased down street by Baptists throwing rocks at him when he was in grade school... ever since then he's been very standoffish towards protestants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 network tv is a good example. some of the website's on the internet are no better in their speech on the catholic church than neo-nazi white supremists are to non-whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick777 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 [quote name='dandy777' date='Nov 15 2005, 09:46 AM'] Most of the times Anti-Catholicism comes from rebellious Catholics and that is worse than any other sentiments coming from non-Catholics. I would excuse up to a certain extent thos non-Catholics who can't appreciate such things as the Papacy, celibacy, Virgin Mary, the Eucharist and Confession. However, it hurts when people express anti-Catholic sentiments when they too were once part of this family and/or still claim to be. I agree that hurts the most because most of the time they have knowledge of the beauty of our Catholic faith but still rebel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 A friend of mine is a Protestant married to a Catholic. She was visiting a Prot. church, and after a couple of weeks one of the members asked where her husband was. She explained that he's Catholic, and goes to Mass. The church member responded, "Well, we'll pray for him that he'll become a Christian, then." It's not a loud demonstration or anything, but the message was loud and clear that "Catholics aren't Christians." My friend didn't go back to that church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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