Lounge Daddy Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [font="Courier"][quote]Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, Iran’s fundamentalist president, on Wednesday declared that Israel should be “wiped off the map” and warned Arab countries against developing economic ties with Israel in response to its withdrawal from Gaza. His remarks, delivered at a conference in Tehran entitled “A World without Zionism”, led to diplomatic protests by the UK, France and Spain, while Shimon Peres, Israel’s deputy prime minister, said Iran should be expelled from the United Nations. In Washington, spokesmen for the Bush administration said the statement underscored US concern over Iran’s nuclear weapons programme. Mr Ahmadi-Nejad’s comments came as Islamic Jihad, a militant Palestinian group allied to Iran, killed at least five Israelis with a bombing in the Israeli town of Hedera. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, saying it was avenging Israel’s killing of a West Bank commander on Monday. US analysts noted that the president’s remarks were not a departure from hardline Iranian rhetoric and did not represent new policy. But they said the rhetoric was aggressive and badly timed, and would serve to confirm western suspicions of Iran’s more confrontational approach that were raised by the new president’s speeches at the United Nations last month. [/quote][/font] good times... [url="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html"]article HERE[/url] now Iran has also built a command bunker under one of the holiest sites in their country (knowing we have “bunker buster bombs” --- and also knowing we don’t hit religious target as a rule --- they are using our PC-ness against us) ... admits they have been working on WMD's and wish too use them ... are lead by a known terrorist, and their leadership hates us and hates Israel Iran and Syria are among the last states that sponsor major terrorist organizations the "move-on" peeps griped about Iraq... and they also griped about Afghanistan what are the odds they grip about ANY military action in stopping this Islamic extremist threat that has been using these governments as cash-cows for thier cause Whatever will the socialist protestors and their communist sponsors do next if we continue strike at those who have declared war on us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son_of_angels Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) I say, let's end this charade of Jewish sovereignty and go marching in there with troops under a papal banner. Then we can deal with the Iranians under the coverage of Christendom. Let them bomb or attack us, we'll burn the Dome of the Rock to the ground. Let them move their troops anywhere near Israel, we'll destroy every mosque/religious center/holy site in the southern half of Iran. "GOD WILLS IT!" Edited October 27, 2005 by son_of_angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchisedec Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [quote name='son_of_angels' date='Oct 27 2005, 12:02 AM']I say, let's end this charade of Jewish sovereignty and go marching in there with troops under a papal banner. Then we can deal with the Iranians under the coverage of Christendom. Let them bomb or attack us, we'll burn the Dome of the Rock to the ground. Let them move their troops anywhere near Israel, we'll destroy every mosque/religious center/holy site in the southern half of Iran. "GOD WILLS IT!" [right][snapback]771637[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree, respect for others is highly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This can't be true. Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Oct 27 2005, 02:08 PM']This can't be true. Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace. [right][snapback]772050[/snapback][/right] [/quote] right....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [quote name='son_of_angels' date='Oct 27 2005, 01:02 AM']I say, let's end this charade of Jewish sovereignty and go marching in there with troops under a papal banner. Then we can deal with the Iranians under the coverage of Christendom. Let them bomb or attack us, we'll burn the Dome of the Rock to the ground. Let them move their troops anywhere near Israel, we'll destroy every mosque/religious center/holy site in the southern half of Iran. "GOD WILLS IT!" [right][snapback]771637[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I think, and hope, you're being sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Oct 27 2005, 02:08 PM']This can't be true. Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace. [right][snapback]772050[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't see how your statement is relevant to the story. The Iranian government does not speak for Islam. Their take on religion is just that; theirs. It does not make Islam, as a religion, peaceful or unpeaceful, anymore than the IRA makes Catholicism a terrorist organization. To judge a religion, you have to look to those who speak for it. There is no such person as far as I know in Islam. Which makes it a religion subject to diversity of thought. Edited October 27, 2005 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toledo_jesus Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Oct 27 2005, 02:08 PM']This can't be true. Islam is a religion of tolerance and peace. [right][snapback]772050[/snapback][/right] [/quote] :lol_grin: : : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avemaria40 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 that's so sad! prayers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 [font="Courier"][b][u]UPDATE:[/u] [/b] [b]Israel: Remove Iran from the UN[/b][/font] [quote]Leaders from all across the world responded harshly Thursday to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's call to "wipe Israel off the map". Ahmadinejad also directed his wrath at countries like Egypt and Jordan which have formal relations with Israel, and other Islamic countries moving toward accommodation. "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," he said at a "World without Zionism" conference. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon instructed Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman to take action in order to remove Iran from the international organization. Sharon was prompted into action by Vice Premier Shimon Peres, who sent a missive in which he wrote, "It is inconceivable that the head of a nation that is a member at the UN would call for genocide. His call stands against the UN charter and constitutes a crime against humanity." Peres, who addressed his remarks to Sharon and Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, said that the severity of Ahmadinejad's comments only underline the danger in light of Iran's attempts to develop nuclear weapons and acquire long range missiles. [/quote] [url="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1129540610545&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull"]ARTICLE HERE[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Domini Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Just a point Era to my mind as a British Catholic the IRA were more socialist than Catholic though they recruited soldiers from Catholic area they're aims were more in line with those of their buddy Colonel Gadaffi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cow of Shame Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 [quote name='Melchisedec' date='Oct 27 2005, 12:30 PM']I agree, respect for others is highly overrated. [right][snapback]772011[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Myles' date='Oct 27 2005, 09:40 PM']Just a point Era to my mind as a British Catholic the IRA were more socialist than Catholic though they recruited soldiers from Catholic area they're aims were more in line with those of their buddy Colonel Gadaffi. [right][snapback]772440[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ok. Fair enough. But my larger point is about the way we evaluate a religion. It would not be fair, say, for Protestants to evaluate Catholicism based on Frances Kissling and "Catholics for a Free Choice". The group does not speak for Catholicism. I think we should extend the same courtesy to Islam, and all religions. The Iranian government could be said to typify the Muslim world, as a temporal order, just as Frances Kissling may represent a lot of American Catholics; but they do not speak for the Catholic or Islamic faiths qua religions. Edited October 28, 2005 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T-Bone Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 [quote name='Era Might' date='Oct 28 2005, 04:33 AM']Ok. Fair enough. But my larger point is about the way we evaluate a religion. It would not be fair, say, for Protestants to evaluate Catholicism based on Frances Kissling and "Catholics for a Free Choice". The group does not speak for Catholicism. I think we should extend the same courtesy to Islam, and all religions. The Iranian government could be said to typify the Muslim world, as a temporal order, just as Frances Kissling may represent a lot of American Catholics; but they do not speak for the Catholic or Islamic faiths qua religions. [right][snapback]772700[/snapback][/right] [/quote] As I say, "You cannot judge a religion based on the actions of those who do not follow its teachings." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 the situation gets more bleak... [font="Courier"][b]Iranians Hold Anti-Israel Demonstrations...[/b][/font] [img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40958000/jpg/_40958424_flag203bap.jpg[/img] [quote][font="Courier"]Tens of thousands of Iranians took part in the rally in Tehran which Iran organises every year on the last Friday of the fasting month of Ramadan to show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle. Shouting "Death to Israel, death to the Zionists", the protesters dragged Israeli flags along the ground and then set them on fire. [/font][/quote] [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4384264.stm"]ARTICLE[/url] creapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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