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[quote name='Dudette' date='Oct 25 2005, 02:55 PM']um, I thought Hitler  was half Jewish...I know he had some Jewish blood in him.
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I think I'm wrong, someone correct me if I am.

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The White Nationalists' reasoning for their ethnocentrism is "There are different kinds of bears, for example. Would you care if one kind of bear was completely eradicated?"

This is the color of someone's skin....it doesn't determine their personality at all.

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[quote name='Dudette' date='Oct 25 2005, 02:29 PM']I think I'm wrong, someone correct me if I am.
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You're wrong. Urban legend.

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[quote name='avemaria40' date='Oct 24 2005, 04:22 PM']so sad, racism smells of elderberries!
how can they possibly say racism is condoned in the Bible?
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O.k. this should maybe be in another board but you asked here soo...

My grandmother's pastor(pentecostal) actually preached this.

When Noah and his sons got off the ark, and Noah planted a vineyard and got drunk and lay "uncovered" and Ham saw him Noah cursed him saying
'" Cursed be Canaan a slave of slave shall he be to his brothers. "
he also said
Blessed by the Lord my God be Shem;and let Canaan be his slave.
God enlarge Japheth,
and let him dwell in the tents of Shem; and let Canaan be his slave."'
Then he(the preacher) said something about Ham being exiled into Africa. Hence all his descendants are meant to be slaves.


Yea. Sad, huh? That explains a little of "Biblival racism" but I don't know what could possibly lead someone to this conclusion or the conclusion that Jews are not people. >:(

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[quote name='Luthien' date='Oct 25 2005, 10:15 AM']So I guess Im inferior because I have dark brown hair and Italian blood?

:huh:
You have to be blond and blue eyed to be superior. I wonder how that makes good people who are blond and blue eyed feel. :sadder:
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Blond hair/blue eyes was not what Nazis considered important - it was membership in the so-called "Aryan Race." Not all native Germans are blond and blue-eyed. I saw a print in a history book of a Nazi propaganda poster illustrating the different supposed branches of the "Aryan race," which ranged from blond Scandinavians to darker Austrians.
Hitler was Austrian and had dark hair.

Of course this Nazi racism was based on warped national politics rather than any sound or coherent science.

Many Slavic peoples, such as Poles, are commonly blonde and blue-eyed, yet Nazis considered them an inferior race.

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^^
my Great-Grandmother was Russian Jew. And we have Jewish blood in us. which is another reason I don't like these girls. >:(

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[quote name='missionseeker' date='Oct 25 2005, 10:17 PM']O.k. this should maybe be in another board but you asked here soo...

My grandmother's pastor(pentecostal) actually preached this.

When Noah and his sons got off the ark, and Noah planted a vineyard and got drunk and lay "uncovered" and Ham saw him Noah cursed him saying
'" Cursed be Canaan a slave of slave shall he be to his brothers. "
he also said
Blessed by the Lord my God be Shem;and let Canaan be his slave.
God enlarge Japheth,
and let him dwell in the tents of Shem; and let Canaan be his slave."'
Then he(the preacher)  said something about Ham being exiled into Africa. Hence all his descendants are meant to be slaves.
Yea. Sad, huh? That explains a little of "Biblival racism" but I don't know what could possibly lead someone to this conclusion or the conclusion that Jews are not people.  >:(
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Despite the propaganda of liberal secularists, Nazi-style anti-Semitism has nothing to do with the Bible.

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I remember doing some research and such, and some of the "Bible believing" anti-semetics beleive that one of tribes of Israel are caucasian. Somehow they use that and try to "prove" that Jesus was purely white, no Jewish ancestry at all...

Gotta called "broiled shrimp" on that one!

I tend to call that kind of racism "redneck" stuff, or KKK racism. Nazism, on the other hand, has its roots with Germanic mythology and gods.

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I always thought that Hitler started to hate the Jews because a Jewish girl turned him down or something.

But I've heard about the Bible being used as proof that God wanted the races separated.

In fact, the only reason why God put forth the rules and regulations for the Jews was to protect them from the paganism and false worship they were doing, it wasn't based upon skin color. It was due to being "unequally yolked."

I always use the example in the old Testament when Moses was married to his wife, and his sister had a problem with the marriage because she was not Hebrew. God smote her because of what she said. IF she told her brother, hey you shouldn't marry her cause she doesn't worship our Lord and Savior then God would have known that. But she didn't do it cause of that.


Here is something I posted about this a good while back.



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Views: 114 Nope, God doesn't forbid interacial marriage.

I spoke to my Southern Baptist friend about this before and I showed him

Numbers 12:1-15.


"While they were at Hazeroth, Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite (Ethopian) woman whom he had married (for he had indeed married a Cushite woman); and they said, "Has the Lord spoken only through Moses?"

Numbers 12:4 - And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.


Numbers 12:5 - And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.


Numbers 12:10 - And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.


Now you can read these verses as Aaron and Miriam just being envious, but they clearly were mad about Moses marring someone of a different race because he is Hebrew. Now, if they were mad at him marring someone who didn't believe in YHWY, then yes, but they were just mad cause he married a Cushite woman.

Now, in the New Testament God accepts all who come through him in Christ Jesus Acts 10:34-35, Gal. 3:26-29.

And that leads back to being unequally yolked . We must beware of being unequally yolked which is a good reason why God forbade his people from marring other people of other races.

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[quote name='zabbazooey' date='Oct 25 2005, 08:00 PM']The White Nationalists' reasoning for their ethnocentrism is "There are different kinds of bears, for example. Would you care if one kind of bear was completely eradicated?"
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If all the bears decided to mate in such a way that certain types of bears were no longer prevalent, I wouldn't care. That's the bears' perogative.

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[quote name='missionseeker' date='Oct 25 2005, 11:17 PM']O.k. this should maybe be in another board but you asked here soo...

My grandmother's pastor(pentecostal) actually preached this.

When Noah and his sons got off the ark, and Noah planted a vineyard and got drunk and lay "uncovered" and Ham saw him Noah cursed him saying
'" Cursed be Canaan a slave of slave shall he be to his brothers. "
he also said
Blessed by the Lord my God be Shem;and let Canaan be his slave.
God enlarge Japheth,
and let him dwell in the tents of Shem; and let Canaan be his slave."'
Then he(the preacher)  said something about Ham being exiled into Africa. Hence all his descendants are meant to be slaves.
Yea. Sad, huh? That explains a little of "Biblival racism" but I don't know what could possibly lead someone to this conclusion or the conclusion that Jews are not people.  >:(
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that's so dumb - is the conclusion that blacks from africa are destined for slavery
so freaking ignorant
historically blacks were not the only ones taken into slavery
other ethnic groups (including white people) were taken into slavery by other countries in the wold also - so that pastor's explanation means nothing more than him trying to justify his bigoted world view

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In addition to their racism, their music smells of elderberries. I like the folk style of the music, just not the way they attempt to perform it.

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