Evidence Against Mormons' Historical Account

[sista2b]

i have a nondenominational friend who is talking w/ some mormons tomorrow night. they literaly had to import mormans into our community to build...they don't call it a temple i don't think or a church. i donno that place they meet. ne way all the arguments i remember are totally Catholic and i can't remember too much of the basics. its been a long time since i've talked w/ them. I started inviting them to adoration when they came to my house...they haven't been back since... i wonder why?

ne way i'm calling her tomorrow to check up on the phorum, could ya post some stuff for her.

[God Conquers]

www.catholic.com has some GREAT stuff on mormons.

[peach_cube]

from http://www.newadvent.org/almanac/thisrock93.htm (recomends the whole page for a quick skim B) )

The Book of Mormon says that the Lamanites and some Nephites (Jews who are alleged to have migrated fro Palestine to the New World around 600 B.C.) were punished by God for their wickedness. The "punishment," inflicted in the form of a curse, was to turn them from white-skinned Semites into dark-skinned Indians (cf. 1 Nephi 12:23; 2 Nephi 5:20-24; Jacob 3:3-5; Alma 3:5-9; Mormon 5:15-18). The Book of Mormon adds that those who receive the curse and later repent can have their skins turned white again (Jacob 3:8; 3 Nephi 2:14-15; Alma 23:18).

Isn't this a positive message to convey to potential converts?

Just another odd twist in the adventure that is the church of LSD (sic)

[cmotherofpirl]

For a very long time, blacks were not permitted in the mormon temple. THen they had a revelation, and changed their policies.

[God Conquers]

were any turned white?

[peach_cube]

Oh, NO.....well at least it didn't take an act of congress to change that policy. :rolleyes:

[phatcatholic]

this article is very informative:

Mormonism and the Great Apostasy Theory

[Trying2BFaithful]

True about blacks fromerly not allowed in the temple. Mormons claim blacks have dark skin because it is "the mark of Cain"...absolute absurdity.

I have a friend who is Mormon and has tried in vain to convert me. I have a copy of the book of Mormon. Its pretty silly IMHO.

Mormons target Catholics because they exploit the aspects of their teaching that mimics Catholic doctrine, namely Church authority and obedience. All they have to do is convince an unsuspecting Catholic of an apostasy after the death of the original apostles and they'd have him/her hooked. If you want to never fall victim to the Apostasy theory, read "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic" by Kenneth Whitehead or "Upon this Rock" by Stephen K. Ray. You'll be invincible to the Mormons arguments.

You might also want to check out "The New Mormon Challenge" by Francis K. Beckwith, Carl Mosser, and Paul Owen. It exposes the Mormon religion for what it truly is: a complete and utter cult.

By the way, I normally don't watch such carp, but did anyone catch the recent episode of South Park where they basically exposed Mormon history and its hypocrisy? It was very, very irreverant but I couldn't help but laugh at the ease the writers had in showing just how ludicrous the Mormon foundation is. It would be hard for any rational Mormon to remain a Mormon after watching the episode. believing their faith requires abondoning common sense, honestly.

They're nice people, but seriously...

[MC Just]

Please pray for me ya'll. When i move back to Massachusetts from Austin, Texas I'll probably be bumping heads with the Mormons because I'll be living next door to my Mormon cousin who has missionaries who come to her house every week. Pray that I am good at my Apologetics and History. I'll be around Mormons and Rapturites. So please pray for me.

Edited December 12, 2003 by MC Just

[cmotherofpirl]

Please pray for me ya'll. When i move back to Massachusetts from Austin, Texas I'll probably be bumping heads with the Mormons because I'll be living next door to my Mormon cousin who has missionaries who come to her house every week. Pray that I am good at my Apologetics and History. I'll be around Mormons and Rapturites. So please pray for me.

Stick a crucifix on your front door and religious statues in your yard, they will avoid you like the plague! :D

[foundsheep]

I believe there is a sign you can buy Just, it says THIS IS A CATHOLIC HOME, no other literature needed.

[-I---Love]

The Mormons are actually building a worship site (what is the actual term- church, temple, ?????) right near my house. I suppose they'll be missionaries going door to door - which is great because then I can be a missionary too!!!! Since I know next to nothing about their religion except from this thread anyone have any recommendations or key info. for me to know? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

[cmotherofpirl]

MORMONISM by Father Most

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1. Teaches that there are many gods, and that humans can become gods and goddesses in the Heavenly kingdom: "History of the Church" 6 p. 306; "Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball," pp. 28, 51-53.

2. Teaches that God the Father was a man like us who progressed to become a God and presently has a body of flesh and bone. "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!"—"Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith, pp. 345-47.

3. Teaches that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, after being procreated in spirit by the Father and a heavenly mother, and conceived physically by the Father and an earthly mother. "The Restoration of Major Doctrines Through Joseph Smith." in, "The Ensign," Jan 1989, pp. 28-29. They hold that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers—"Mormon Doctrine," pp. 192, 546-47, 589-90.

4. The Holy Spirit is a spirit in the form of a man and only his influence is present everywhere.—"Doctrines of Salvation" I. pp. 38, 49-50 by Joseph Fielding Smith.

5. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three separate Gods—"Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," p. 370.

6. The Bible is corrupt, missing many "plain and precious parts" and does not contain the fullness of the Gospel—"Doctrines of Salvation" III. pp. 190, 191.

7. Information from the National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. "The American Indians are physically Mongoloids and thus must have originated in eastern Asia."—Cf. J. B. Billard, editor, "The World of the American Indian," Washington, DC, National Geographic Society, 1974, 1979. See esp. the chapter "Across an Arctic Bridge" by J. D. Jennings.