Fides_et_Ratio Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'm trying to take this in a positive way, but I can't help feeling a little offended... A guy in one of my classes today invited me to a charismatic prayer meeting (along with a few other people trying to talk me into it), and I agreed to go (if only for the sake of possibly making some nice Catholic friends). But then the guy says to me, "No reason for any aversion... it's what we'll be doing in Heaven. And hey, it could be a good [b][u]lesson in humility[/u][/b] for you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 A friend of mine has implied several similar things to me recently. He's been implying that holiness and saintliness is really the stuff of the saints...normal people like us can't relate. We shouldn't compare ourselves. I'm thinking, "maybe you can't, but I've been reading St. Faustina's Diary and I definitely understand where she's coming from..." People who think they're right about a controversial topic generally have rude ways of putting it. The best thing to do is keep in mind that humility is, at its core, knowing the truth...and if you are confirmed in your opinions because of what you experience, and if that is closer to the truth, then you can still say you were humbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I feel your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fides_et_Ratio Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 Except after he said that I was thinking, "I'll show you a 'lesson in humility'!" I'm really not wanting to go, especially after class today... but I told a priest-friend of mine that I would try it out (even though he promised I wouldn't like the charismatic stuff), and so I think I'm going to smell of elderberries it up for just tonight anyway.... and then come back and e-mail him a giantic e-mail about how everytime I go to one of these "charismatic" things it REALLY makes me want to: a) change rites b) convert to Greek Orthodox or, c) become a staunch traditionalist (i.e., attend nothing less than the Tridentine Mass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Sep 8 2005, 07:40 PM']I feel your pain. [right][snapback]716262[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I haven't gotten the holier-than-thou reaction from a charismatic yet...need I be on the lookout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fides_et_Ratio Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Sep 8 2005, 07:45 PM'] I haven't gotten the holier-than-thou reaction from a charismatic yet...need I be on the lookout? [right][snapback]716272[/snapback][/right] [/quote] wait until around FOP time... I was once told (by a pre-the) that I didn't have a relationship with the Holy Spirit because I wasn't charismatic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 [quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Sep 8 2005, 07:45 PM'] Except after he said that I was thinking, "I'll show you a 'lesson in humility'!" I'm really not wanting to go, especially after class today... but I told a priest-friend of mine that I would try it out (even though he promised I wouldn't like the charismatic stuff), and so I think I'm going to smell of elderberries it up for just tonight anyway.... and then come back and e-mail him a giantic e-mail about how everytime I go to one of these "charismatic" things it REALLY makes me want to: a) change rites b) convert to Greek Orthodox or, c) become a staunch traditionalist (i.e., attend nothing less than the Tridentine Mass) [right][snapback]716271[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Of course, we don't swerve back onto the road or we end up going off the other side. Although changing rites I wouldn't be opposed to...I must honestly say I've slightly considered it...I want to attend a Divine Liturgy one of these days... ...of course, life decisions should not always be made on one's own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 [quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' date='Sep 8 2005, 07:47 PM']wait until around FOP time... I was once told (by a pre-the) that I didn't have a relationship with the Holy Spirit because I wasn't charismatic... [right][snapback]716273[/snapback][/right] [/quote] We've already had a FOP...I told at least three people that I wasn't charismatic...they didn't mind. Funny, I don't recall any charismatic saints, even those who are very closely associated with the Holy Spirit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 (edited) "We're all called to be great Saints." --Angelica of Birmingham Edited September 8, 2005 by Era Might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 yuck charasmatic... i wouldn't go if i were you. you don't have to worship like a protestant. sorry if this offends anyone but this is how i feel about charasmatic catholcism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 8 2005, 09:38 PM']yuck charasmatic... i wouldn't go if i were you. you don't have to worship like a protestant. sorry if this offends anyone but this is how i feel about charasmatic catholcism. [right][snapback]716384[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I'm not fond of the Charismatic movement, but I wouldn't go that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 8 2005, 09:38 PM']yuck charasmatic... i wouldn't go if i were you. you don't have to worship like a protestant. sorry if this offends anyone but this is how i feel about charasmatic catholcism. [right][snapback]716384[/snapback][/right] [/quote] it does. as long as its not at Mass, there is nothing wrong with singing enthusiastically and praising the Lord. Its not everyones taste, and that is ok. Not everyone is into gregorian chant either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fides_et_Ratio Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 I'm "okay" (very loosely) with it as long as it isn't during the Liturgy. ... I ended up going... it was, um, okay. Not as intense as Steubenville, so that was a perk (though they were all disappointed when I said that... haha)... I think I may have some more visitors with me when I go to visit my old FUS friends. It was a little odd though... everyone was giving me these huge hugs and being all nice-- when, except for about 2 of them, they all usually ignore me in class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 8 2005, 06:38 PM']yuck charasmatic... i wouldn't go if i were you. you don't have to worship like a protestant. sorry if this offends anyone but this is how i feel about charasmatic catholcism. [right][snapback]716384[/snapback][/right] [/quote] whats wrong with praising the Lord in the same way some Protestants do, as long as its outside of liturgy whats wrong with it? They might be doingsome things well, this being one of them. Personally, i dont really have a preference, i'll go to a tridentine Mass or a lifeteen Mass or a Catholic Family Conference or a Steubenville Conference. Its all about praising God in our way that is in communion with the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prose Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 [quote]I was once told (by a pre-the) that I didn't have a relationship with the Holy Spirit because I wasn't charismatic..[/quote] Yup, same experience. I was told I just wasn't being "open to the Lord" because I wasn't "resting in the Spirit" or the BIG one "speaking tongues". EVERYONE at the place I went was "speaking in tongues" except me. Strange. Especially b/c God promised if he sent someone the gift of tongues he would send another the gift of translation... Whatever. I guess if that's what they need to "prove" they are close to God, go nuts, but don't put me down in the process. Not to mention I think it deters from the people ACTUALLY experiencing gifts when EVERYONE has them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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