Gay marriage bill approved in California

[Socrates]

Yay, Ah-nold!

It appears the Gubernator at least has some good principles!

[Socrates]

[quote name='track2004' date='Sep 8 2005, 12:52 AM']I agree with you on the govt and religion interaction with marriage actually.  Personally I think they government should acknowledge that in their own eyes marriage is nothing more than a contract, so any two people should be able to get it.  Or the government should wash their hands of it and give no benefits (they did this in Rome actually).  As it is though, most gay people are fighting for the first part.  I really do think that marriage, as I see it, is under God and that through Him people really find love. 

I didn't think it was just picking on me or anything.  I really apperciate that you're asking these questions instead of just saying it's wrong and being done.

Norse,
I understand why the Church thinks it's wrong.  I've read the literature, I've looked through the Bible, I've talked with my friends and adult leaders.  I know why they say it's wrong, but I disagree.  There are a bunch of reasons why I tend to disagree, but like I said earlier, I want to avoid the public Catholic vs Catholic debates, so PM me and I'll try to explain as best I can.

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Look, Track, I know you just said you don't want to debate, but you've already gotten yourself into this. You need to ask yourself some serious questions.
Do you consider yourself a Catholic?
Then why do you consider your personal opinons on this topic to be worth more than what the Church says and what the Bible says?

Very presumptuous to say the least!

Being Catholic is about submitting to the authority of Christ and His Church. It is not about believing whatever we want, and throwing out those Church teachings we have trouble with.

"Gay marriages" are NOT marriages in the eyes of God and never can be, and therefore, there is no reason for the state to declare it thus.
A true marriage is a building block of society (resulting in a family).
Homosexual "unions" cannot do this. They make a mockery of marriage.

And it is outright tyrannical for the state to declare "gay marriages" against the will of the people.