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Fides_et_Ratio

lol, I thought I recognized this thread! We went over it again in my Metaphysics class with a much better prof and I think I have a better grasp of St. Thomas' opinion on the matter. Though I still find it highly interesting.

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Laudate_Dominum

[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' post='1072604' date='Sep 23 2006, 09:37 AM']
lol, I thought I recognized this thread! We went over it again in my Metaphysics class with a much better prof and I think I have a better grasp of St. Thomas' opinion on the matter. Though I still find it highly interesting.
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yeah, I think its pretty sweet too. :)

hmmm.. maybe we should debate the matter (no pun intended).

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Fides_et_Ratio

a debate would be interesting... but it would have to wait until a big break from school...

and for the record, I wasn't nuts.. "De Aeternitate Mundi" [url="http://www.corpusthomisticum.org/ocm.html"]http://www.corpusthomisticum.org/ocm.html[/url]

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Matter always exsisting in time would be fine...


And Aquinas agrees with Aristotle in the Metaphysics that one cannot know through reason alone whether there has always been matter.

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Laudate_Dominum

[quote name='Theoketos' post='1072701' date='Sep 23 2006, 11:55 AM']
Matter always exsisting in time would be fine...
And Aquinas agrees with Aristotle in the Metaphysics that one cannot know through reason alone whether there has always been matter.
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they didn't have the luxury of modern physics. :smokey:

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[quote name='Fides_et_Ratio' post='712905' date='Sep 6 2005, 08:11 AM']
I suppose.

Maybe I was just mixing up Aristotle's cosmology... or maybe it was just another philosopher completely outside of Catholicism. lol. Oh well. I shall try to explain myself tomorrow, I guess.
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well, Aristotle did devote a whole essay of sorts to defending Aristotle's idea of an eternal world philosophically, and said that a world created in time could only be known through revelation.

of course he didn't actually hold the view of a world not created in time, that would have made him a heretic. but his philosophy held that possibility ;)

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