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[quote name='Raphael' date='09 October 2006 - 11:28 PM' timestamp='1160450919' post='1087993']
The USCCB one would be fine. I've already given her the ring and had it blessed, so it would be kinda silly to have it blessed again and give it to her again.

I'd love to say, "my betrothed," though.
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We got a new ring for it. I love it!

There is a practical reason involved, and it all worked out really well. I'm going to wear the betrothal ring on my right hand until we get married, but when we get married I am going to switch them to the opposite hands and have the wedding band go with the betrothal ring.

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[quote name='let_go_let_God' date='10 October 2006 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1160457743' post='1088046']
If I remember correctly this is also a great cerimony for people who are engaged but will be getting married at a much later date in the future, ie over a year.

God bless-
LGLG
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Which is our case, with a 2+ year engagement.

I am getting more excited now... as you can see by my too-many posts.

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[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='26 August 2005 - 07:11 AM' timestamp='1125016907' post='699196']
Ok, so my understanding is that betrothal is still recognized in Church Law, but is just [b]not really practiced anymore. [/b]
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That is not true in all places. It is very uncommon here for a Catholic wedding [i]not[/i] to be preceded by a betrothal.(to which also kith and kin are usually invited and it might be considered an insult to miss the ceremony.) Until recently the betrothal ceremony was held a few months before the wedding, but lately they are being held closer to the wedding date.

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[quote name='Innocent' date='12 April 2010 - 11:41 PM' timestamp='1271130108' post='2092221']
That is not true in all places. It is very uncommon here for a Catholic wedding [i]not[/i] to be preceded by a betrothal.(to which also kith and kin are usually invited and it might be considered an insult to miss the ceremony.) Until recently the betrothal ceremony was held a few months before the wedding, but lately they are being held closer to the wedding date.
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Yes... according to the article I read, it seems that only English-speaking countries have phased out of the tradition. I get the impression that it's still the norm in many/most other places.

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[quote name='Innocent' date='13 April 2010 - 05:41 AM' timestamp='1271130108' post='2092221']
That is not true in all places. It is very uncommon here for a Catholic wedding [i]not[/i] to be preceded by a betrothal.(to which also kith and kin are usually invited and it might be considered an insult to miss the ceremony.) Until recently the betrothal ceremony was held a few months before the wedding, but lately they are being held closer to the wedding date.
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Really? That is cool. It seems to be almost completely out of practice in my country. I would also want my wedding to be preceded by this if I ever find someone. I'd probably get weird looks from people but I don't care, lol.

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Ephrem Augustine

I have been very glad to see this.
In religious life: Postulant, novitiate, Simple Profession, Solemn Profession.
There are stages, and those stages are marked by solemn ritual. The solemn ritual helps bring to our awareness that everything we do, we do only with the assistance and blessing of God. So, every moment of our religious life journey is brought into sacred space.

Holy Orders had marked the Seven Clerical Orders to solemnly mark the progress to the Sacred office of the priesthood:
Porters, Lectors, Exorcists, Acolytes, Subdeacon, Deacon, Priesthood. Although with the reform, we have retained Lectors and Acolytes, which is still practiced in a standard way in preparation for the Priesthood.

Marriage, however, this is what it looks like to today.
Engagement: Often without solemnity... Rite of Matrimony, sometimes not thought of as sacred.
If Marriage, is a sacrament, marriage, as a life long commitment, sacred to God, requires an entire life to be holy...
I have really been asking in what ways the Church, should help mark it with rituals.
And here are some splendid rituals. I think it would be incredibly pertinent for those engaging in pastoring...

We were discussing this in our sexual ethics class, and how marriage is seen as a one time event, not a life long process, and it is my opinion, that more liturgy throughout the process might give witness to the theology we teach.

So it could look something like this?
Engagement, with a blessing, Betrothal with a blessing and ceremony, and Matrimony with a much more solemn and rich liturgical celebration.

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