phatcatholic Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 phatpham, can non-catholics receive reconciliation/confession? what if they are properly disposed and they believe that thru it they will in fact be forgiven? i've been thinking about this recently. holla back nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 if they get permission from the priest. i had a friend who was thinkin bout becomin Catholic and got permission from the priest to do it, but he got all nervous. im not sure he ever did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 I think the only pre-requisite for receiving the Sacrament of Penance is Baptism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted November 23, 2003 Share Posted November 23, 2003 It's a Catholic Sacrament, though, and not too many non-Catholics would want to receive it. Most don't understand it. How commendable that a few do. I am still not sure, though, that they may receive the Sacrament, but they could certainly seek the priest's blessing in the confessional... Pax Christi. <>< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Why would they want to when as Protestants they argue going 'alone' directly to God is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatholicAndFanatical Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 Are you sure they are able to go if not Catholic? I thought it was the same standards as receiving the Eucharist. unless extreme measures are in order like with our troops over sea's, Im sure they have a Priest over there that would hear everyones confesion and give them Jesus, and last rites. I think they can only recieve a Blessing, not the absolution that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted November 24, 2003 Share Posted November 24, 2003 From James Akin (convert and apologist for Catholic Answers) - has his own excellent website. Q: Can a non-Catholic go to Confession? A: Yes, under specified conditions. Confession is one of three sacraments which canon 844 allows non-Catholics to receive in specified circumstances: "844:3 Catholic ministers may licitly administer the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick to members of the oriental churches which do not have full communion with the Catholic Church if they ask on their own for the sacraments are properly disposed. This holds also for members of other churches which, in the judgment of the Apostolic See, are in the same condition as the oriental churches as far as these sacraments are concerned. "844:4 If the danger of death is present or other grave necessity, in the judgment of the diocesan bishop or the national conference of bishops, Catholic ministers may licitly administer these sacraments to other Christians who do not have full communion with the Catholic Church, who cannot approach a minister of their own community, and on their own ask for it, provided they manifest Catholic faith in these sacraments and are properly disposed." The first paragraph applies principally to Eastern Christians (those in the Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Coptic Church, the Abyssinian Church, the Armenian Church, etc.) and states that they can receive confession, anointing, and the Eucharist if they ask for them and have the proper dispositions (which is also required of Catholics). Other communions may also share this if they are judged by the Vatican to have the same status concerning these sacraments as the Eastern churches. The second paragraph applies principally to Protestants and adds several additional conditions because these churches do not have the same sacramental status as the Eastern ones. Most notably, "they [must] manifest Catholic faith in these sacraments," meaning they must believe about them what Catholics do -- e.g., that they are sacraments, that confession forgives sins, that anointing conveys spiritual and (if it is conducive to salvation) physical grace to the recipient, that Christ is Really Present in the Eucharist, etc. A point has to be made about this because most Protestant denominations (virtually all, in fact) do not teach these things, whereas the Eastern Churches do and so belief in these things can be presumed for Eastern Christians (though, of course, if an Eastern Christian denied any of these things to a Catholic priest, the priest would need to refuse the sacrament to prevent them from profaning it). Regarding the sacrament of confession, a Protestant who believes in it could receive it in a grave situation since virtually none of the Protestant churches have the sacrament of confession, making it impossible for him to approach one of his own ministers for it. There is also another situation (in the United States, at least) in which a non-Catholic Christian can go to confession, and that is when he or she is in the process of converting to the Catholic faith. The National Statutes for Catechumenate (passed by the U.S. National Conference of Catholic Bishops November 11, 1986) states: "36. The celebration of the sacrament of reconciliation with candidates for reception into full communion is to be carried out at a time prior to and distinct from the celebration of the rite of reception." Non-Christians and those who share the Christian faith but who have not been baptized cannot receive confession since baptism is the door to the rest of the sacraments. In fact, the function of confession is to restore the grace which was originally conferred on a person in baptism but which has sense been lost through (mortal or venial) sin. The early Church Fathers thus called confession "the second plank after the shipwreck," the shipwreck being the sin in which we are born, baptism being the first plank which we may grab hold, and confession being the second plank we may grab hold if we let go of the grace of the first. Thus only baptized people can go to confession. If a person isn't baptized, his first job is to get that sacrament. http://www.cin.org/users/james/questions/q063.htm JMJ Likos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatcatholic Posted November 24, 2003 Author Share Posted November 24, 2003 well, i guess that answers it......thanks phatcatholic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellenita Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 There is also another situation (in the US at least) in which a non Catholic Christian can go to confession, and that is when he or she is in the process of converting to the Catholic faith. Only in the US? That's a bit too far to travel..... Seriously, a priest wouldn't turn anyone away would he? I thought his concern was for all souls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroX Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I recieved my first absolution/confession 3 days before I went through the rite of acceptance (adult confirmation) into the church. It was a great experience. peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasJis Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 For non-Catholics, the canon is based on two fundamentals. The principal requirement is the person having the same belief and understanding of Sacraments as the Catholic Church. The second is the person recognizing a need for Reconcilliaton and having valid reasons to go to a Catholic priest instead of availing oneself of the grace of Reconcilliation in the Church you belong to. If you are a non-Catholic, have a desire to go, and are in doubt, GO ANYWAY. Explain your situation to the priest. I've helped at a teen retreat w/ 180 kids and we did Reconcilliation with 4 priests. We had a few non-Catholic kids who were with us that wanted to go. We discussed it with the priests and they all allowed them to go and at the least would discuss it pesonally with the individuals kids. They later told me that most of the kids were able to recieve Reconcilliation Sacramentally because of the two requirements. It did help that we had substantial catechesis on Reconcilliation before hand. It never hurts to talk to a servant of God anyway. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Friday Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 I received the Sacrament of Reconciliation prior to my Confirmation, because I had been baptized in another Christian church but needed to be confirmed and accepted into the Church. Reconciliation was of course necessary, because one cannot receive the Sacrament of Confirmation or the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin. Since it had been years since my Baptism, I was obviously in a state of mortal sin. I guess that's why they allow Confession for baptized converts from non-Catholic churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted November 28, 2003 Share Posted November 28, 2003 It was the same for me, Nathan. I made my First Confesson the night before I made my Profession of Faith and received the Holy Eucharist for the first time. What a blessed experience! Ellenita, check with a local Catholic Church. Or if Adeodatus is still with us, he would know what the practice is in England. I feel certain it would be same as the U.S., but you can inquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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