cmotherofpirl Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 God does not ask us to live in the past, but the here and now. It will never be the same as your first love, but then you are not the same person as you were then either. If He sends a new love your way, why would you refuse a gift? I never want to be too old to fall in love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 The procreative part of marriage just doesn't seem to be fulfilled if you're old and crusty, though. It would seem that you would do just as well being really good friends if you're elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 [quote name='scardella' date='Aug 5 2005, 08:11 PM']The procreative part of marriage just doesn't seem to be fulfilled if you're old and crusty, though. It would seem that you would do just as well being really good friends if you're elderly. [right][snapback]674265[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That's alright. Marriage is still a good and holy thing. It's not like they did something to make themselves infertile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 [quote name='scardella' date='Aug 5 2005, 09:11 PM']The procreative part of marriage just doesn't seem to be fulfilled if you're old and crusty, though. It would seem that you would do just as well being really good friends if you're elderly. [right][snapback]674265[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Define old and crusty. : My dear old neighbor were still "relating" in their 80's. Did you ever hear the saying about dying in bed at 99 with a smile on your face?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 (edited) EWWW cmom : thanks for THAT mental picture although, God willing, that will be me Edited August 6, 2005 by kateri05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scardella Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 6 2005, 01:51 PM']Define old and crusty. : My dear old neighbor were still "relating" in their 80's. Did you ever hear the saying about dying in bed at 99 with a smile on your face?? [right][snapback]675192[/snapback][/right] [/quote] No, thankfully... and I don't want to know how you know they were still "relating" in their 80's. Call me naïve, but I thought once you got to a certain age, stuff just stopped working, hence, old and crusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 yeah.. that's uh.. a little too private for me.. I'd rather be blissfully ignorant. *shivers* eerrg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 After 60 years of marriage they were still very much in love, and quite pleased with themselves. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 [sarcastic enthusiasm] -- Enough about 90 year olds doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eremite Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [quote]The procreative part of marriage just doesn't seem to be fulfilled if you're old and crusty, though[/quote] The procreative dimension is not limited solely to the ability to procreate. Procreation is the primary END, but not the MEANING, of the conjugal union. An elderly couple still fulfills the essential ends of the marital act by expressing themselves in a self giving way, without hindering the expression of the flesh (eg, with a prophylactic). Although mutual abstinence is certainly a possibility, the conjugal act does not lose its meaning in old age. It is, in the natural order, the supreme act of love between two people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Aug 5 2005, 06:54 PM']God does not ask us to live in the past, but the here and now. It will never be the same as your first love, but then you are not the same person as you were then either. If He sends a new love your way, why would you refuse a gift? I never want to be too old to fall in love [right][snapback]674140[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Cmom is right. Even though at this point I can't see myself ever falling in love with someone else, if Matt died I still wouldn't rule it out altogether. As much as the idea of "old crusty people doing it" may be creepy or gross to us young folks, its still a beautiful testament of their love for one another. Though it wouldn't be procreative anymore (except by some miracle) the unitive aspect is never something to be looked down on or brushed aside. "They're old and they can't have kids anymore so they should just stop 'doing it'" is a ridiculous argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 [quote name='Eremite' date='Aug 7 2005, 07:17 PM']The procreative dimension is not limited solely to the ability to procreate. Procreation is the primary END, but not the MEANING, of the conjugal union. An elderly couple still fulfills the essential ends of the marital act by expressing themselves in a self giving way, without hindering the expression of the flesh (eg, with a prophylactic). Although mutual abstinence is certainly a possibility, the conjugal act does not lose its meaning in old age. It is, in the natural order, the supreme act of love between two people. [right][snapback]676296[/snapback][/right] [/quote] hehe You beat me to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Wise words Katie.. hrmm.. but it's something I'd rather not have to think about until I get there. hehee.. j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincessKRS Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Oh, I understand not wanting to think about it. lol Being young its kind of a foreign concept--my comments weren't directed at you specifically, I just put them out there as a general thought. But like I said, just because someone is old it doesn't mean that intercourse should be forbidden them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 (edited) How old was Sara in the OT? Just because your body is aging doesn't mean you lose your capacity or desire to have marital relations. While the idea may seem gross to young people, I can assure you the wrinkly alien population is still very much alive and well. Edited August 8, 2005 by cmotherofpirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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