reelguy227 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinnieR Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='zabbazooey' date='Jul 23 2005, 09:07 PM']I'm skeptical. [right][snapback]656174[/snapback][/right] [/quote] same here so these were consecrated?? by whom? how did they know that these two hosts were consecrated when it came down?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 it kinda looks like some sorta reduced fruit juice on them but it still awes me cause it looks kinda like blood and I guess thats what a bleeding Eucharist would look sorta like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Looks like jelly, not blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabbazooey Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Exactly, how do we know these hosts are even consecrated? they could be random pieces of bread. I mean yeah that's weird, but look at some of the pictures of the bleeding host. Do you really think they had a camera there when that Korean priest (or bishop I can't remember) discovered the host bleeding and him freaking out? No. But anyways, that's just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 lol. I'm skeptical even if they are approved by the Church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fides_et_Ratio Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Actually, looking at the site.. it appears it was condemned. The bishop is the one with the authority to approve miracles/apparitions... it looks like the Archbishop condemned them as false: [quote]"His Excellency Victorinus Kong Hee Youn of the Archdiocese of Kwangju in Korea made it official as of January 1, 1998, that his position on "the events arising in Naju" is negative. His grounds for this position were that (1) the messages "lacked genuineness and credibility," (2) "the phenomena alleged to be Eucharistic miracles were contradictory to the doctrine of the Catholic Church," and (3) "various strange phenomena arising from the statue of the Blessed Mother and Julia’s body produced no evidence that could prove that they were truly supernatural and thus from God." Based on this judgment, the Archbishop issued pastoral instructions that prohibited public services and promotional materials regarding Naju in his Archdiocese"[/quote] ..I noticed MilesChristi posted this earlier, but I wanted to bring it up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Now that I look at the pictures, it doesn't look anything like blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 They don't look anything like hosts either.. And I wonder if that chalice is real.. hehe, j/k But seriously I'm skeptical, but I was kind of believing it a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 In all the lives of the Saints that I've read, they're skeptical if they themselves have visions, so I likewise am skeptical of things I have not seen, and sometimes even if the Church has given her approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudate_Dominum Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 [quote name='qfnol31' date='Jul 24 2005, 10:30 AM']In all the lives of the Saints that I've read, they're skeptical if they themselves have visions, so I likewise am skeptical of things I have not seen, and sometimes even if the Church has given her approval. [right][snapback]656797[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Naturally, but if the Church approves something it's solid. Otherwise you'd be doubting the Church's special charism to discern such matters. But I must say, I've never been all about apparitions and stuff like some people, I think it might to me good to steep myself in the Marian messages of the 20th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven77 Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 i wonder how and why anyone would fake this. to do such a thing is insane and highly corrupt. as far as i understand the Bishop said nothing of this particular incident. but i go with what the Church says. regardless, this picture is something to think about every time we go to Mass and gives us an idea of the approved miracles when they actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Joe Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 What about the church in Italy where the bread and wine actually became flesh and blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Jul 24 2005, 10:34 AM']Naturally, but if the Church approves something it's solid. Otherwise you'd be doubting the Church's special charism to discern such matters. But I must say, I've never been all about apparitions and stuff like some people, I think it might to me good to steep myself in the Marian messages of the 20th century. [right][snapback]656803[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Even if the Church says something is acceptable, She also says that Catholics don't have to believe in it. I believe that no one has to accept any private revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qfnol31 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 [quote name='Old_Joe' date='Jul 24 2005, 02:35 PM']What about the church in Italy where the bread and wine actually became flesh and blood? [right][snapback]657160[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I have been to that church, in Orvieto. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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