geetarplayer Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Unitarians deny the Holy Trinity and also lack any sort of specific doctrinal belief. But although the Unitarian Church promotes free religious opinion, I find them extremely narrow-minded. Unitarians say that it is impossible for God to exist as three different beings at once, but to say that is to deny what God is. All things are possible with God. Nothing is impossible for Him. So to say that they believe in an all-powerful God who can do anything except exist as more than one entity is contradictary. -Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Sounds like lazy Christians who are too afraid to let their lives into the hands of any real authority. Darn schisms! <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Gus Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Just out of curiosity, what's their explanation for the whole "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" thing? I imagine it'd be a bit of a clincher, that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 (edited) Unitarians maintain that primitive Christianity was unitarian and only gradually changed to belief in the Trinity. They point to the Councils of Nicea (325) and Constantinople (381). Many Unitarians consider themselves humanists. Edited November 19, 2003 by Katholikos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seek Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 They sound like JW's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperdulia again Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Unitarians are not Christians in any way, shape, or form. One caannot deny the deity of Christ and be a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katholikos Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 They sound like JW's. Right. Early Unitarians might have been classified as Arians (JW's are Arians). Their heroes were Arian, Origen, and Pelagius . (souce: Separated Brethren, William J. Whalen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.SIGGA Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Unitarians are not Christians in any way, shape, or form. One caannot deny the deity of Christ and be a Christian. yup. they are all inclusive and sing inspirational tunes like "Lean on Me" and "Stand by Me" and emotional rock music at their services. A lot of unitarians are psychologists so it's obvious why their services are like free therapy sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 *Looks at M. Sigga's info...* That's messed up... -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 hmmmm, free therapy. We should all start going to Unitarian services! hahaha j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmotherofpirl Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 If you want free therapy go to confession! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Conquers Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 hey! Good call cmom. Although if you want REALLY good therapy go to a therapist. Just kidding, get a spiritual director. Or a therapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikkan_hanil Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 You know, that's actually a good idea... :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdewolf2 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I would just like to point out, first of all, that God does not exist as more than one "being" or "entity." Well, "entity" is an ambigous term, but the Church teaches that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one in being (homo-ousios, or consubstantial). Each person is distinct only in the relations that exist between them. The Father is unbegotten. The Son is begotten from the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. What it means for the Son to be begotten from the Father (filiation) or the Spirit to proceed from the Father (spiration) is not known but it must be wholly spiritual in nature, and furthermore eternal since the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are co-eternal. I would also like to point out that Origen was not really a heretic. Many of his beliefs may have been heterodox, but he always upheld the teaching authority of the Church. He was just confused about what exactly the Church teaches, since the Church's teachings were not as clearly laid out and explicated back then as they are today. He was also a little too carried away by his Platonism. I think Catholics would find Origen instructive in many respects. What made Arius and Pelagius heretics was not their erroneous ideas, since it is not a sin to be in error, but their stubborn refusal to accept the judgment of the Church. Last of all, Unitarians no longer insist even on belief in God. The U-U church allows "non-theistic" beliefs as a valid option. I can't imagine how the Unitarians are even a religion, let alone Christians. The word "religion" stems from the Latin, and means "to bind." There are certain beliefs and practices which unite all members. But the Unitarians are bound to nothing. Hence, I would conclude that what the Unitarians have is not religion, but sentimentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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