Demons

[ironmonk]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Jul 20 2005, 02:47 AM']from demons influencing us to demon possession and possible demons existing in flesh............what is your stance on the existence of demons.
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Demons are fallen angels.

The scriptures tell us that some have unknowningly entertained angels... some of those angels could be fallen angels.

Ya never know what someone is.... human or angel.

Enjoy that food for thought
God Bless!
ironmonk (just a man - the most militant Catholic you'll ever meet with a smile)

[ironmonk]

[quote name='scardella' date='Jul 20 2005, 02:04 PM']I don't know about the latter question, but there are quite a number of accounts of demons possessing humans.  From what I've been told, demons can only possess someone if he gives them permission.  I don't like to delve much more into demonology, really.  It's scary stuff.
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Saint Pio use to get physically attacked by Satan and other demons. His gaurdian angel would come to his rescue.

Satan would sometimes pose as Mary and even Christ...

[b]Remember... always test the spirits[/b].

[b]1 John 4:1[/b]
Beloved, do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
[b]2 [/b]This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh be longs to God,
[b]3 [/b]and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus 2 does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that, as you heard, is to come, but in fact is already in the world.


God Bless!
ironmonk

[Socrates]

[quote name='little_angel202' date='Jul 20 2005, 12:22 PM']perhaps a deamon could posses a dead persons body if this person had gone to hell and then given a deamon permission to posses his body?

thoughts??
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Someone's been watching too many horror movies!

[Guest Eremite]

Since we're on the subject, Pope Leo XIII's vision is pretty interesting:

[quote]"Father Domenico Pechenino writes: 'I do not remember the exact year. One morning the great Pope Leo XIII had celebrated a Mass and, as usual, was attending a Mass of thanksgiving. Suddenly, we saw him raise his head and stare at something above the celebrant's head. He was staring motionlessly, without batting an eye. His expression was one of horror and awe; the color and look on his face changing rapidly. Something unusual and grave was happening in him.

"'Finally, as though coming to his senses, he lightly but firmly tapped his hand and rose to his feet. He headed for his private office. His retinue followed anxiously and solicitously, whispering: 'Holy Father, are you not feeling well? Do you need anything?' He answered: 'Nothing, nothing.' About half an hour later, he called for the Secretary of the Congregation of Rites and, handing him a sheet of paper, requested that it be printed and sent to all the ordinaries around the world. What was that paper? It was the prayer that we recite with the people at the end of every Mass. It is the plea to Mary and the passionate request to the Prince of the heavenly host, beseeching God to send Satan back to hell.'"

-"An Exorcist Tells his Story"[/quote]

Though it's not related here, I've read elsewhere that Leo XIII's vision included Satan saying he would destroy the Church in 85-100 years. I don't think we can deny that he's been trying his darndest.

[little_angel202]

[quote name='Socrates' date='Jul 20 2005, 12:30 PM']Someone's been watching too many horror movies! 
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lol actaully reading to many vampire books !! but still could be possible

[infinitelord1]

I would like to share with you the few experiences i have had with evil......when i was a little boy i saw a demon. I was in my room at night about to go to sleep and i saw this creature like shadow move across the wall. My room was dark and the walls were dark yet the creature appeared to be pitch black. I remember a overwhelming shear of terror just coming over me. I tried to scream to get my mothers attention (she was in the bathroom) but i was so scared i couldnt scream.

I had my second encounter with a demon like entity not too long ago.....i am 22 years old now. This was no creature.......it was spirit like. I could barely make out any physical features but i noted faint facial features and what stuck out the most was the glowing red eyes. Its strange to me how these possible demon encounters were different in their physical features. The first "demon" i saw didnt have glowing red eyes. The second demon i saw was not a shadow......i could see through it and it appeared to be almost white like your typical casper the ghost.

Something else that has been happening to me.....sometimes i wonder if i have been temporarily possessed in a few instances. Sometimes i will wake up in the morning and its like something takes control of me. When this happens i am in a subconscious state of mind. Its like i am sadduced or something. I dont know what is going on around me and i dont know where i am.....but when i regain consciousness i realize i am in my bed. Anyways, when this happens its like this entity that possesses me always seems to have one thing to say, using me to say it of course......."you are mine". Then i always muster up the energy to tell it (with my mind) to go away.....then it does.

It would possibly be of help to me if someone could share a similar experience or provide an insite as to what is happening to me.

[ironmonk]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Jul 20 2005, 07:19 PM']I would like to share with you the few experiences i have had with evil......when i was a little boy i saw a demon. I was in my room at night about to go to sleep and i saw this creature like shadow move across the wall. My room was dark and the walls were dark yet the creature appeared to be pitch black. I remember a overwhelming shear of terror just coming over me. I tried to scream to get my mothers attention (she was in the bathroom) but i was so scared i couldnt scream.

I had my second encounter with a demon like entity not too long ago.....i am 22 years old now. This was no creature.......it was spirit like. I could barely make out any physical features but i noted faint facial features and what stuck out the most was the glowing red eyes. Its strange to me how these possible demon encounters were different in their physical features. The first "demon" i saw didnt have glowing red eyes. The second demon i saw was not a shadow......i could see through it and it appeared to be almost white like your typical casper the ghost.

Something else that has been happening to me.....sometimes i wonder if i have been temporarily possessed in a few instances. Sometimes i will wake up in the morning and its like something takes control of me. When this happens i am in a subconscious state of mind. Its like i am sadduced or something. I dont know what is going on around me and i dont know where i am.....but when i regain consciousness i realize i am in my bed. Anyways, when this happens its like this entity that possesses me always seems to have one thing to say, using me to say it of course......."you are mine". Then i always muster up the energy to tell it (with my mind) to go away.....then it does.

It would possibly be of help to me if someone could share a similar experience or provide an insite as to what is happening to me.
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I have had a few.... nothing to that extreme.

I was here in my house alone, wife was up north. I was about to go to bed, I stepped into my room, and someone was on the other side of my bed, and looked up at me, since it was dark, only a little light was in the room, I could only see it's silhouette, I thought someone came through the window ( which was closed ), the lightswitch was about four feet behind me, I leaped back, hit the light then leaped forward ready to fight, nothing was there. Some will say, maybe it was just a shadow... Well, it moved and it was not on the wall, it was about six and half feet tall and large.

Flash forward a few months... my mother in law just moved in. She shares a room with my daughter. Up until my daughter was born, the room was just empty and had a futon for guests. No food has ever been in that room. The windows were closed, the vent was closed, the only way for anything to get in and out was through the door, or under the door. I came home one day to find my wife and mother in law killing flies. They were in the living room, walked into the bedroom and it was swarming with about 50-100 flies. There were so many that they used the shop vac to get them out of the air and had to go buy bug spray for the rest. Since then, I placed my Crucifix of St. Benedict on my daughters wall above her bed. It was blessed by a priest. There has never been another fly in that room. Now, I have searched that room high and low, and could not find out how the flies, and that many flies, would have entered, or even why they entered.... nothing to attract them.

Oh, one of the people that lived here before me, blew his head off with a shotgun. My neighbor was telling me how he helped clean up the blood.


If you are really encountering demons and it's not your imagination, know this, they will lie. You might want to start praying the Rosary... it is one of the most powerful prayers and get a Crucifix of St. Benedict, have it blessed and keep it with you.
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God Bless,
ironmonk

[Paladin D]

I didn't read much of this thread, because I have a fear of demons, unfortunately.

[jezic]

they are real. Rarely they are given the power to manifest themselves in physical form.

[Semperviva]

[quote name='infinitelord1' date='Jul 20 2005, 05:19 PM']I would like to share with you the few experiences i have had with evil......when i was a little boy i saw a demon. I was in my room at night about to go to sleep and i saw this creature like shadow move across the wall. My room was dark and the walls were dark yet the creature appeared to be pitch black. I remember a overwhelming shear of terror just coming over me. I tried to scream to get my mothers attention (she was in the bathroom) but i was so scared i couldnt scream.

I had my second encounter with a demon like entity not too long ago.....i am 22 years old now. This was no creature.......it was spirit like. I could barely make out any physical features but i noted faint facial features and what stuck out the most was the glowing red eyes. Its strange to me how these possible demon encounters were different in their physical features. The first "demon" i saw didnt have glowing red eyes. The second demon i saw was not a shadow......i could see through it and it appeared to be almost white like your typical casper the ghost.

Something else that has been happening to me.....sometimes i wonder if i have been temporarily possessed in a few instances. Sometimes i will wake up in the morning and its like something takes control of me. When this happens i am in a subconscious state of mind. Its like i am sadduced or something. I dont know what is going on around me and i dont know where i am.....but when i regain consciousness i realize i am in my bed. Anyways, when this happens its like this entity that possesses me always seems to have one thing to say, using me to say it of course......."you are mine". Then i always muster up the energy to tell it (with my mind) to go away.....then it does.

It would possibly be of help to me if someone could share a similar experience or provide an insite as to what is happening to me.
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I have never seen a demon, but I can sometime sense a presence of evil sometimes either in daylight or sometimes in the dark, but I always pray hail mary's right away and then the rising feelingof terror immedietely subsides. mary is she who crushes the head of the serpent and the demons know this- they fear her too...since she shatters their leader...and also....sometimes i have gotten a feeling not of possession but possibly obsession, as has one of my guy friends. his is more severe where he is literally paralyzed for periods of time, usually after he has had a dream of demons entering his room...i have had a similiar feeling of paralysis but it is more like i all of a sudden a seized by terror and fear and cannot move... due to a kindof internal feeling of screaming taking me not from me but from around and in..... even thouhg it will be complete silence and utter quiet...it is scary but it passes...

[Guest Eremite]

When I was younger, before I even became religious, I would get these temptations in my head, saying I loved Satan, so I would repeat in my head over and over, "I love God and hate the devil". Keep in mind, even though I believed in God, I was not religious. I have a hunch these thoughts were demonic, perhaps an attempt to break my will and possess me.

[jezic]

there are other things that happen to with demons.

I don't know how common it is, but sometimes things just get dark. It is like the happiness just drains away. Shadow and everything just gets wierd. You can feel it...... a cruel malice just present.

That is bad enough. I can't imagine what one in physical form would be like.

[Dreamweaver]

Thankfully I've never really had an evil encounter. Once I went to a coffee house and I could just feel some sort of evil, dark prescence behind me in the corner (by the bathroom). I'd keep on jumping and looking, no one was there, but I wanted OUT of that place.

The place has since closed and now a little Japanese sushi joint is there. I'd been to the place many other times, but never experienced such creepy things.

Of course, now that I think about it, it occured during the time when I was first deciding to join the Catholic Church, hanging out with the person who was instrumental in showing me the Church. I love God. :wub:

[WillT]

Well, I posted this in the "unexplained" thread on Open Mic, but I'll paste it here for you guys. This is my personal experience, and like I said in the other thread, whether or not you believe it makes no difference to me, but let me say I would have ABSOLUTELY no trouble swearing on The Bible that this is actually what I experienced, told to the best of my ability.



[quote]This happened just last summer, almost a year ago to be exact. So everything started with a strange dream that I had several nights in a row. I've never been one to try and interpret dreams nor have I ever beleived that every dream has meaning, but for some reason I fealt I knew exactly what this dream meant. In the dream I was in a cave. It was totally dark and very cold and damp. Right strait in front of me however was a large cage whose barred walls reached to the almost top of the cave.There was another barred wall serving as the top of the cage. the inside was strangely illuminated with red light, but the light didn't go outside of the cage and only illumated what was in the cage. That is where the terror really resided. I know it sounds completely cliche, but inside was a large "man" with a goatee. Now, a little bit of backstory is needed here. At this time I was just starting to really get into my faith, and trying to actually live it out. During this, however, I had been struggling with a certain sin that I just could not get over. The sin involved an addiction to pornography, and we all know what males do after having viewed porn. I don't think I need to go into detail. So in this dream, I somehow "knew" that what was in the cage was a demon. I wasn't sure whether it was only symbolic of this sin that I was struggling with, or if it were an actual demon who was tempting me, but I knew for sure that it was one or the other. I would get my answer soon enough. The scarriest thing about this demon was that I knew that if it got out of the cage that it would kill me. I knew it would devour me whole or rip me to shreds. No question. It had the perfect teeth for the job. I was up close and personal with those teeth every night for several nights. Every time I had that dream I woke up as soon as it ended. Nothing ever happened, and all in all it was a short dream, however scarry it may have been. One night , however, I woke up to my sheets being literally ripped off of me. I did not open my eyes. Something told me that was a definately bad idea. Another strage thing is that I generally sleep either in the fetal position or on my stomach. My mom tells me I've slept that way ever since I was a baby. This time, I was flat on my back, arms outstretched with my forarms and upper arms at right angles (picture the "don't shoot" position for a visual), so I tried to roll over. Bad idea. I was pinned to the bed and as I regained more consciousness I could feal hands on my wrists holding my arms still. Now, I have a black belt in Taekwondo and have learned well what it feels like to have my wrists grabbed like that. One of the most memorable experiences of this was having a 7 foot 300 and something pound policeman peform the exact same move on me when I was about 14 years old and 150 pounds at most. This guy was all muscle. I told you that to tell you this. Whatever had my wrists that night had a grip that was infinately stronger. I couldn't even rotate my hand. Nothing. On top of this, there was an equally strong force holding my legs in place. I could feel the "hands" there too. There was also the distinct feeling of either long fingernails or claws digging into my skin in both locations. Also, it felt as if someone were squeezing my testicles. I'm sorry if that isn't appropriate for the phorum, but I'm just trying to be exact.I knew that the demon from my dream had me. I also knew that God had been warning me all along, and still consider this a great blessing. I had committed that sin three times that day. My first instinct was to start praying Hail Marys. Can you tell I'm a cradle Catholic? So anyway, every time I got to the word "Jesus" the demons grip lossened momentarily untill eventually it left as quickly as it had attacked. I was so exhausted that I just rolled over and went to sleep. Several strange things were noticable when I woke up the next morning. First, my Rosary was in my hand. I never sleep with my Rosary and clearly remember putting it on my nightstand (which is actually a good 6 feet from my bed) the night before. There is ABSOLUTELY no way I could have grabbed it at any point during the night. It was also disassembled. The metal loops had literally been stretched, opened, and taken apart. For anyone who carries thier Rosary in thier pocket, you've probably experienced the same phenomenon except that you have a rational explanation. Also, my sheets were not only off the bed, but up against the wall, again about 6 feet from the foot of my bed. Even with Taekwondo I couldn't have kicked a light sheet that far across a room. And finally, the most disturbing thing. I had literal scratches on my wrists and ankles in the exact place I had felt the "claws" the night before. I wish now that I would have taken pictures, but I was more than a little shaken up and didn't even think about it.

So that was my increadably unnerving night. Some other things happened when we first moved into our hose, but this post is already log enough. I'll save those stories for another time if anyone is interested.[/quote]

[Semperviva]

whoa
rosary literally a weapon